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    davidjohnson
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    Hi folks, with Corms permission I’ve posted this as I thought it might be of interest to most of you.

    TIMEFORM REVEAL LEADING RATINGS FROM 2010 FLAT SEASON

    Harbinger equals Sea The Stars 140, Frankel highest juvenile since Celtic Swing

    TIMEFORM today revealed their end-of-year ratings which will be published in the esteemed Racehorses annual in March.

    Harbinger posted the highest Timeform rating of the season with the 140 he recorded in the Betfair King George, in the process matching the figure posted by 2009 Horse of the Year Sea The Stars, whilst Frankel’s final figure of 133p is also worthy of note as the highest rating achieved by a juvenile since 1994. Both colts, along with ‘supermare’ Goldikova, will therefore be leading contenders for Timeform’s Horse Of The Year (revealed when the annual is published).

    Timeform’s leading middle distance performers in 2010

    Harbinger produced a flawless display at Ascot, everything coming easily to him as he cruised to the front before drawing clear to win by a record margin of 11 lengths, an effort backed up by the clock (produced a timefigure of 135). Timeform have no doubt that Harbinger was a truly outstanding racehorse in 2010. Like Sea The Stars in 2009, Harbinger stands tall above his contemporaries, rated 7lb ahead of his stablemate Workforce, who himself had an excellent year, returning his 133 figure when winning the Arc.

    140 Harbinger
    133 Workforce
    132 Nakayama Festa
    130 Cape Blanco, Fame And Glory
    129 Rip Van Winkle
    128 Twice Over
    126 Midday, Rewilding, Sarafina, Byword

    Timeform’s leading milers in 2010
    The miling division in 2010 was one of the most exciting in recent years, with only 6lb separating the leading eight performers, but Freddie Head’s ‘supermare’ Goldikova stood out from her contemporaries and takes the accolade of top miler. She maintains her master rating of 133 in a record-breaking season where she tasted defeat only once in six outings, as she often had much more in hand than the bare margins of victory implied.

    133 Goldikova
    131 Canford Cliffs
    130 Makfi
    129 Rip Van Winkle
    127 Paco Boy, Cityscape, Dick Turpin
    126 Poet’s Voice

    Timeform’s leading sprinters in 2010
    Starspangledbanner announced his arrival on the European scene when winning the Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot in ready fashion and he needed only to produce a similar level of form to see off Britain’s top-rated sprinter, Equiano, by a neck, in the July Cup.

    128 Starspangledbanner
    127 Equiano
    126 Kinsale King, J J The Jet Plane, Rocket Man
    125 Markab, Sacred Kingdom, Sole Power

    Timeform’s leading juveniles in 2010
    Sixteen years on from Celtic Swing posting 138 with his Racing Post Trophy win, Frankel put up the highest rating by a juvenile since when sweeping to a ten-length success in the Royal Lodge Stakes at Ascot in September.

    133p Frankel
    128 Dream Ahead
    121 Hooray
    119p Roderic O’Connor
    119p Pathfork
    119p Wootton Bassett
    118 Casamento

    Timeform’s leading stayers in 2010
    Manifest had looked an excellent Cup prospect when chasing home Harbinger in the John Porter at Newbury and did nothing to alter that opinion when trouncing his field in the Yorkshire Cup. Although that race was weakened by a number of withdrawals on the day, Manifest couldn’t have made a better impression, galloping away powerfully to beat Purple Moon by 8 lengths. In our opinion, that is the best single piece of form over a staying trip in Europe last season, and there were valid excuses for Manifest not reproducing it in the Gold Cup.

    127 Manifest
    126 Age of Aquarius, Americain
    124 Rite of Passage

    http://betting.betfair.com/horse-racing/timeform-features/timeform-reveal-leading-ratings-from-2010-flat-season-100111.html

    #335332
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    I hate timeform!!

    Bunch of idiots if you ask me!! :lol: :lol:

    #335340
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    Well anyone who rates a horse who won a King George that truned out to be one of the worst in history, even if he was visualy very impressive, on apar with Sea the Stars has got to have a screw lose :lol:

    The horse got injured and can’t defend himslef but the fact is he won a King George that proved to be as ordinary a Group 1 as you could ever hope to find.

    The form was never farnked in fact is was quite the poosite……..Cape Blanco had won a very poor Irish Derby over 12f but he clearly never got the trip at Ascot nor did he as was the worry get it at lonchamp. Youmzain proved he was only a shadow of his former self never striking a blow also in the Arc, his fav race.

    I’ve see 100’s of horses look like superstar when they have nothing to beat and to put this horse after one race in a bracket with Sea the Stars is a joke.

    Harbinger other than winning the King George beat Duncan who wasn’r even regarded good enough to go to post with Sea the Stars and prior to that beat Age of Aquarius who Sea the Stars leeft for dead some 9 lengths bewhind him when hacking up in the Derby.

    1 poxy Group 1 against a horse who won everthing there was to win Gimme a break!!!!

    They everntually Got Frankel right about 2 mionths after I did :lol: basing their ratings Dream Ahead on horses who ran in obviously under par Group races in the esraly part of the season.

    To me that’s where they go wrong…..if it’s Group race it must be a good race and nothing could be further from the truth…horses end up being overarted something beats them and he goes throiugh the roof.

    Pretty much agree with the rest except:
    Frankel 133p I like as he was outstanding in every way and he supposidly beat the very best around with ease…..Paul Hanagan would argue that point as would I. RF saw an opportunity and sent Wootten Basset another direction but if he’s only 119 I’ll eat my hat 129 will prove nearer the mark IMO

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    jose1993
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    Ah, tomorrow’s the day (well, usually the day after) that the official ‘World Thoroughbred Rankings’ are released so Timeform are getting a head start then? :lol:

    Is there any reason why three foreign sprinters who never ran in Europe in 2010 are listed and Black Caviar’s not? Is a whole separate book being dedicated to her?

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    132 Nakayama Festa

    On Japan Cup running, that would put

    Dandino

    on

    135

    ! Hope springs eternal in the Elite breast…

    #335350
    davidjohnson
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    I think that she will be covered in the Top Horses Abroad section in the Annual. Reason they were included is that their form ties in with some European-trained horses and Dubai.Jay Jay obviously also ex-European trained/campaigned. Black Caviar is currently rated 128+.

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    Must have been quite some time since 2 x two year olds were rated 128 and over in the same season?

    I guess the difficulty TF have (and have always had) concerns wide margin winners. Frankel, Dream Ahead and Harbinger have all been rated on the back of races they won by wide margins and I’d be hesitant about accepting any of the three ratings for their full value. I’m not questioning the rating, it’d have been tough to rate them otherwise (at least to any significant degree) on the bare evidence, but all three performances had a ‘too good to be true’ look about them at face value – Frankel’s perhaps less so than the other pair. Not crabbing any of the horses, just saying the ratings may flatter them somewhat owing to the difficulty rating wide margin wins.

    #335355
    davidjohnson
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    Don’t have the figs to hand and am at home now, but 128 would have been enough to see Dream Ahead Champion juvenile in any of the previous 5 years.

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    Jonibake
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    Must have been quite some time since 2 x two year olds were rated 128 and over in the same season?

    I guess the difficulty TF have (and have always had) concerns wide margin winners. Frankel, Dream Ahead and Harbinger have all been rated on the back of races they won by wide margins and I’d be hesitant about accepting any of the three ratings for their full value. I’m not questioning the rating, it’d have been tough to rate them otherwise (at least to any significant degree) on the bare evidence, but all three performances had a ‘too good to be true’ look about them at face value – Frankel’s perhaps less so than the other pair. Not crabbing any of the horses, just saying the ratings may flatter them somewhat owing to the difficulty rating wide margin wins.

    I am assuming though that, whilst Frankel achieved this rating in the Royal Lodge where he was indeed a wide margin winner, he also came pretty close to it at Doncaster and in the Dewhurst indicating that it was no fluke.

    Mr Johnson i would love to know what his ratings now are for those two races given Rainbow View subsequently finished 3rd in a Group 1 and Rod O Connor won one.

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #335359
    davidjohnson
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    Hi Jonibake

    We’ve left the Doncaster figure as 115+, the same as what the timefigure is. Obviously it could be higher in light of the 51 lb beating he gave out to the now 102p rated Rainbow Springs. He gets his performance figure from the Royal Lodge.

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    Thanks David. How about the Dewhurst?

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #335361
    davidjohnson
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    126 bare form on the Dewhurst which is about what you’d expect a normal Dewhurst winner to be achieving. That he did so despite pulling hard in a poor position suggests he’s better than that.

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    Fair enough. I must say that I have always doubted that 115 he got at Doncaster. To be given that rating you are having to assume that Diamond Geezah ran miles below his previous form (attained consistently in several races). At the time perhaps that was ok given we knew little about the newcomer but we know different now. It was also quite an exceptional time no?

    In my opinion that performance by Frankel (on the best ground he encountered all season) was not far off his Royal Lodge run.

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #335365
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    Surprised to see Rewilding rated so high. What rating has been given to Snow Fairy ?

    #335368
    davidjohnson
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    Her rating hasn’t been issued yet so can only give her last black book rating was 123.

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    #335399
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    Here’s mine, worked from the RPR scale, 3yo’s and older, 7f+…..
    Harbinger 138
    Nakayama Festa 135
    Workforce 134
    Cape Blanco 133
    Makfi 132
    Lookin At Lucky 130
    Quality Road 129
    Paco Boy 129
    Behkabad 128
    Canford Cliffs 128
    Rip Van Winkle 127
    Sarafina 127
    Goldikova 127
    Fame And Glory 127
    Twice Over 126
    Poet’s Voice 126
    Marinous 126
    Lord Chaparral 126
    Dick Turpin 126
    Blame 126
    Rose Kingdom 125
    Red Jazz 125
    Quijano 125
    Victoire Pisa 125
    Gio Ponti 125
    Night Magic 125
    Irian 125
    Byword 125
    Dangerous Midge 125
    Americain 125

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