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- November 22, 2013 at 22:24 #459354
Been debating whether to take 5/2 on
Bobs Worth
to win outright or back him in Paddy Power’s three place insure bet market at 11/10. I’ve come down on the side of the latter, just for some added insurance.
Betfair Chase
Bobs Worth
€40 win @ 11/10 (PP 3 place insure bet)I won’t be backing
Annie Power
again at 4/6, but I will be backing
The Game Changer
in Gowran.
- €78.32
November 22, 2013 at 23:09 #459367Gowran 12.50
The Game Changer (7/2)Haydock 3.00
Bobs Worth (9/4)€5 e/w double (PP)
Will probably have more on this double tomorrow as well as some on The Game Changer, but expect/hope I might get better than 7/2 in the morning. The only negative about TGC imo is the jockey booking. He looks like he needs holding up but Lynch seems to like being up with the pace. Hopefully Charlie will let him know what needs to be done

- €88.32
November 23, 2013 at 10:21 #459449Hopefully Charlie will let him know what needs to be done
He’d better THM

Any day The Game Changer runs is a Big Day VTC

Gowran 12.50
The Game Changer (7/2)Haydock 3.00
Bobs Worth (9/4)€5 e/w double (PP)
Will probably have more on this double tomorrow as well as some on The Game Changer, but expect/hope I might get better than 7/2 in the morning. The only negative about TGC imo is the jockey booking. He looks like he needs holding up but Lynch seems to like being up with the pace. Hopefully Charlie will let him know what needs to be done

Price has actually shortened on TGC but another
€15 e/w double @ 9/4 & 3/1 (PP)
Gowran 12.50
The Game Changer
€40 win @ 9/4 (PP 2 place insure bet)- €148.32
November 23, 2013 at 11:17 #459481Hi Tommy
I have to agree with BOB’S WORTH & ANNIE POWER, both earmarked for The Festival
Bob’s Worth is half of my short list for The Gold Cup (With Mossey Joe)
Annie Power looks The Real DealNovember 23, 2013 at 12:44 #459513Hi Tommy
I have to agree with BOB’S WORTH & ANNIE POWER, both earmarked for The Festival
Bob’s Worth is half of my short list for The Gold Cup (With Mossey Joe)
Annie Power looks The Real DealHi CS, how are things?
Really hope Annie Power states her Champion Hurdle claims today. If she can’t beat Zarkandar at today’s conditions then my 25/1 ante post on her won’t look great.
Couldn’t have Mossey Joe. He’ll be 11 in March and while he looked promising in his younger days but his form is a long way short of winning a Gold Cup imo. Do you not think it’s more likely he’ll end up in the Foxhunters’ anyway?
November 23, 2013 at 12:57 #459516Disappointed with The Game Changer there. Jumped well but was very keen on the outside of the field, soon as he hit the front he stopped quickly. I’m considering myself fortunate that he placed third as the favourite took a nasty fall on the level. Hopefully horse and jockey are okay.
November 23, 2013 at 14:27 #459529Couldn’t have Mossey Joe. He’ll be 11 in March and while he looked promising in his younger days but his form is a long way short of winning a Gold Cup imo. Do you not think it’s more likely he’ll end up in the Foxhunters’ anyway?
Apparently he is being aimed at The Festival. David MacNamara said after Stratford "This proves he travels fine and a tilt at the Cheltenham Festival next year is now firmly on the cards."
If he’d ran in The Galway Plate and won (He surely would have off that weight) he wouldn’t have been eligible for The Foxhunters. That just leaves The Gold Cup.
A reproduction of his Stratford run (Course record broken in a hack canter by 7sec on no faster than good ground) would put him right in the mix.
If he goes for The Foxhunters he’s the safest bet since Freddie won it in 1963November 23, 2013 at 15:10 #459537Desperate day at the office, Annie Power the only positive.
- €108.32
November 23, 2013 at 23:10 #459610A tough day today but the show must go on.
I’m afraid the ground might be gone too dry for
Goonyella
who has done almost all his racing on soft or heavy going. Given that he took all of 3m 6f at Punchestown to overhaul Vesper Bell, I’m going to let him run tomorrow. I can see him running a nice race in 5th or 6th, hopefully he won’t win anyway

I’m pluming for the Pricewise horse,
Pass The Hat
. His recent chase win over Dushybeag and Seefood reads well, considering Dushybeag is a 128 rated hurdler. Pass The Hat runs off 120 here. That was his first chase run over 2.5 miles, his other outings having been over shorter. It would be no surprise to see him improve again when stepped up to three miles. Given his connections, it would be no surprise if this race has been the plan for some time.
Elsewhere on the card, Moyle Park and Wrath Of Titans lock horns again. Moyle Park did things the hard way imo that day at Punchestown, for an inexperienced horse to hit the front over half a mile out in a Land Rover and then fight off ll comers, serious performance. He should beat Wrath Of Titans again I feel, although there’s no doubt both are nice horses.
My RSA punt Ballycasey starts his chasing career over 2m 1f. He’s been well backed already and is around 4/6, too short imo to beat what could be a high class two miler in Ned Buntline. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Ned Buntline proved too quick for Ballycasey tomorrow, I had earmarked him as a potential Supreme Novices horse last season. A race to watch I feel.
The 2m 4f novice hurdle looks very competitive. I like two in it: Empire Of Dirt (16/1) and Apache Stronghold (6/1). However I won’t be getting involved until closer to the race as I’m afraid one of the Giggy horses will be pulled, leaving seven runners and unattractive each way terms.
Navan 2.25
Pass The Hat
€10 e/w @ 12/1- €128.32
November 23, 2013 at 23:27 #459616Elsewhere on the card, Moyle Park and Wrath Of Titans lock horns again. Moyle Park did things the hard way imo that day at Punchestown, for an inexperienced horse to hit the front over half a mile out in a Land Rover and then fight off ll comers, serious performance. He should beat Wrath Of Titans again I feel, although there’s no doubt both are nice horses.
Have just noticed that Wrath Of Titans received 10 lbs from Moyle Park at Punchestown, a whopping 15 lbs if Jane Mangan’s claim is taken into account
He only receives three tomorrow, and while you’d expect a four year old to come forward more than a five year old on average, I don’t think he’ll have made up the bones of a stone on the Mullins horse. Having made this remarkable observation, I’d strongly fancy Moyle Park tomorrow.November 24, 2013 at 00:06 #459621Spent the last half hour reading posts from my first jumps thread on here… I used to be top notch in fairness
November 24, 2013 at 10:44 #459637A tough day today but the show must go on.
I’m afraid the ground might be gone too dry for
Goonyella
who has done almost all his racing on soft or heavy going. Given that he took all of 3m 6f at Punchestown to overhaul Vesper Bell, I’m going to let him run tomorrow. I can see him running a nice race in 5th or 6th, hopefully he won’t win anyway

I’m pluming for the Pricewise horse,
Pass The Hat
. His recent chase win over Dushybeag and Seefood reads well, considering Dushybeag is a 128 rated hurdler. Pass The Hat runs off 120 here. That was his first chase run over 2.5 miles, his other outings having been over shorter. It would be no surprise to see him improve again when stepped up to three miles. Given his connections, it would be no surprise if this race has been the plan for some time.
Elsewhere on the card, Moyle Park and Wrath Of Titans lock horns again. Moyle Park did things the hard way imo that day at Punchestown, for an inexperienced horse to hit the front over half a mile out in a Land Rover and then fight off ll comers, serious performance. He should beat Wrath Of Titans again I feel, although there’s no doubt both are nice horses.
My RSA punt Ballycasey starts his chasing career over 2m 1f. He’s been well backed already and is around 4/6, too short imo to beat what could be a high class two miler in Ned Buntline. Wouldn’t be at all surprised if Ned Buntline proved too quick for Ballycasey tomorrow, I had earmarked him as a potential Supreme Novices horse last season. A race to watch I feel.
The 2m 4f novice hurdle looks very competitive. I like two in it: Empire Of Dirt (16/1) and Apache Stronghold (6/1). However I won’t be getting involved until closer to the race as I’m afraid one of the Giggy horses will be pulled, leaving seven runners and unattractive each way terms.
Navan 2.25
Pass The Hat
€10 e/w @ 12/1I looked at Ballycasey for the RSA myself. Given that Ted Walsh talked up his schooling session on ATR and he was one of the big ante-post punts from the Fesival are you not a little concerned that 25/1 remains freely available? Add to that at this stage he remains very much hype over substance in terms of actual form. Today the stiff track should compensate for the inadequate distance and if it comes to any sort of a battle I wouldn’t put much trust in Ned Buntline.
November 24, 2013 at 12:22 #459649I looked at Ballycasey for the RSA myself. Given that Ted Walsh talked up his schooling session on ATR and he was one of the big ante-post punts from the Fesival are you not a little concerned that 25/1 remains freely available? Add to that at this stage he remains very much hype over substance in terms of actual form. Today the stiff track should compensate for the inadequate distance and if it comes to any sort of a battle I wouldn’t put much trust in Ned Buntline.
I wouldn’t say I’m concerned by it but it is a little strange. To be honest I think the whole ante post market for the RSA is a little out of kilter, so I’m not reading too much into it. If he disappoints in his next couple of runs then he probably won’t even run so the NRFB appeals. If he proves himself good enough to run I doubt he’ll be 25/1. Ned Buntline looks a typical Meade horse who needs to be held up and produced late but he’s talented. I think Ballycasey will win but no bet for me at odds on.
Can’t believe
Moyle Park
is available at 4/5, thought he’d be 4/7 so have to have a punt on that. Hopefully ruby can get him settled – if he does I can only see one winner.
12.25 Navan
Moyle Park
€25 win @ 4/5 (PP)- €153.32
November 24, 2013 at 12:34 #459653You were just a flash in the pan THM

Decent stuff at Navan today, love these Sunday meetings in Ireland. Canter for Moyle Park there, well done.
Thinking of a wee Mug 15 with…….
1325 – Apache Stronghold, or Empire of Dirt
Troytown – Panther Claw, Goonyela, or Mad Brian, or etc etc
1425 – Jetson
1525 – Midnight Streaker. One of my "Midnight" horses, but showed a wee bit of ability last time, and on that showing could sneak a place at the 50’s.ps Good luck today, hope Ballycasey runs a blinder.
November 24, 2013 at 12:42 #459655I used to be top notch in fairness
You were just a flash in the pan THM

Decent stuff at Navan today, love these Sunday meetings in Ireland. Canter for Moyle Park there, well done.
Thinking of a wee Mug 15 with…….
1325 – Apache Stronghold, or Empire of Dirt
Troytown – Panther Claw, Goonyela, or Mad Brian, or etc etc
1425 – Jetson
1525 – Midnight Streaker. One of my "Midnight" horses, but showed a wee bit of ability last time, and on that showing could sneak a place at the 50’s.ps Good luck today, hope Ballycasey runs a blinder.
Moyle Park looks another class prospect for Mullins, might have had more on but I felt a bit shaken after Bobs Worth yesterday

Hard to know what to make of Jetson’s last few runs, still think he should have won at Cheltenham

Ruby just said on ATR the ground is more soft than good, think I’ve made my bed regarding Goonyella though
Might add him later, will see what others say over the afternoon.I’m torn between Empire Of Dirt and Apache Stronghold.
November 24, 2013 at 13:21 #459658Last run, although in hot company, was too bad to be true, but willing to give him another chance. Should definitely have won at Cheltenham, just given a really poor ride…..
November 24, 2013 at 13:22 #459659Navan 1.25
Apache Stronghold
€5 e/w @ 9/2 (Boyles)Empire Of Dirt
€5 e/w @ 16/1 (Boyles)And one after your own heart VTC…
€0.50 Reverse F/C

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