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You got to be impressed with that Casual Conquest and seems a summer break is now in order and will be back in the Autumn.
Dermot Weld confirmed this would be the case on Irish TV
Right Casual Conquest on Soft Ground is he a real Proper Group 1 Horse?
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He’s won cosily enough to think that that would be the case. IMO they’re being quite silly giving him a break now. He’s had 2 races in 3 weeks but he was off the track for 10 months. Best course of action is going the Grand Prix de Saint Cloud and then take your pick between the King George, Juddmonte, Irish Champion + Prix Foy. Run in any 2 of those.
Anyway, irrelevant, he won’t be winning any Arc in this lifetime.
You cant lose while in the box.A summer break after 2 runs is that the plan? He just doddled around at NEWMARKET.( NOW HE HAS A RACE AGAINST HIS STABlE COMPANION!!!!!!!!!!)THE GROUND WAS TOO FIRM FOR HIM TO LET DOWN AT NEWMARKETAND NOW A SUMMER BREAK AND WE STILL HAVE NOT ARRIVED AT SUMMER IN IRELAND. YOU MUST BE JOKING.IS THIS ANY WAY TO TRAIN AND RACE A GROUP ONE HORSE? GIVE ME A SUMMER BREAK FOR GOODNESS SAKE.THE OWNER COULD BE DEAD BY THE ARK TIME.HE IS ALREADY 100 YEARS OLD.
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Well I wouldn’t be fancying him on firm ground in any top class race. He looked a much better horse today than I have ever seen him.
I think if he can repeat that performance and it came up very soft they would be nuts not to try.
No matter how you look at it he failed to win in top company on top of the ground conditions last season and it now looks like he’s much better suited by soft ground.
Not much sense in flogging a dead horse and when he gets soft again he’s over the top.
We don’t need to have an APOB runner to have a very good Prince Of Wales’s
Gladiatorus
Godolphin also have good 2nd, 3rd and 4th strings
Presvis
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Gladiatorus is almost certainly running in the Queen Anne instead of the Prince of Wales’s.
I wonder whether that is why some people are keen for the Queen Anne market to open?
We don’t need to have an APOB runner to have a very good Prince Of Wales’s
Gladiatorus
Godolphin also have good 2nd, 3rd and 4th strings
Presvis
Vision d’Etat
StouteGladiatorus is almost certainly running in the Queen Anne instead of the Prince of Wales’s.
I wonder whether that is why some people are keen for the Queen Anne market to open?
Absolutely
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Right Casual Conquest on Soft Ground is he a real Proper Group 1 Horse?
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Questionable, imo.
Given a perfect ride in a soft race he did okay, but he’ll struggle for pace against better/fitter horses. There won’t be many top class middle distance races run on such ground, nor will he find it so easy to make all in larger fields.
The Irish St Leger may be his best chance, there’d be a query on his breeding, but his form suggests he might stay.I found in a book today that when Alleged was a 3 year old, after running him on the 28th May, Vincent O’Brien then did not race him until he won the Great Voltiguer at the Ebor meeting, afterwards the Leger, en route to winning the Arc.
Dermot Weld may be following this methodology with Casual Conquest and will find a race mid August for him, maybe take in the Irish leger also, and then on to the Arc.
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