September 26, 2006 at 15:23 #3051
Tomorrow in the 3.50 at Lingfield, James Fanshawe’s Moon On The Spoon looks the recipient of some ‘special’ treatment from the handicapper.
For those unfamiliar with the filly, she looks a typically progressive Fanshawe type whose latest run – a second to the in-form Macorville – represents a very solid piece of form. That run, off a mark of 76, was considered good enough to raise her 2lb to 78.
Tomorrow she runs on the AW off a mark of 70, presumably based on her one previous start on the surface. Given that this also happened to be her qualifying run, and the fact that it was her first start in seven months, how can the handicapper take the view that she is an 8lb inferior horse on a surface she has tackled once.
There was a similar anomaly with a horse called Bedouin Blue earlier in the season – I am sure there are several others – but it strikes me as very odd that this loophole is available for such a lightly-raced individual.
Am i getting my knickers in a twist over nothing? I am sure that the owners of her opponents tomorrow won’t be overkeen on her presence.
Rant over.September 26, 2006 at 15:29 #77980AragornMember
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I saw the horse run last time out and thought she would win soon. Thanks for the tip-off!September 26, 2006 at 15:31 #77981davidjohnsonMember
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Fully agree with you Smithy, and remember the Bedoiun Blue race.
Looking at the latest supplement to the racing Calendar there are a couple of juveniles given similarly valuable treatment. Kyshanty’s AW mark of 78 is 4lb below his turf rating despite the fact that the drop to 5f was clearly a factor in his below-par effort on his sole polytrack start. Michael Bell’s Spritza has a 6 lb lower AW mark judged on one piece of evidence.
(Edited by davidjohnson at 4:45 pm on Sep. 26, 2006)September 26, 2006 at 17:09 #77982MauriceParticipant
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Wouldn’t the handicapper react according to the subsequent form of the other horses in the respective races? Would he also take into account breeding predilections towards one surface over another where appropriate?
I haven’t studied any of the races in question but if the subsequent form of the AW race has turned out to be inferior to the Turf race, surely he’d be entitled to take that into account?
Jsut guessing.September 26, 2006 at 18:01 #77983
The maiden looks pretty strong form to me!
Still confused.September 26, 2006 at 18:59 #77984yeatsParticipant
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It’s not often the handicapper’s proved wrong is it? Look at Rainbows Edge today, the "experts" on RUK said he was thrown in with a pitchfork and Junipers Girl badly handicapped and look what happened.September 27, 2006 at 06:43 #77985seabirdParticipant
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Not sure that that example proves the handicapper right, Yeats.
It does prove that the horses are able to make fools of us!
ColinSeptember 27, 2006 at 15:03 #77986AragornMember
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Beaten a neck, was backed today as well.. I took the 3.8 or whatever it was last night so i’m gutted. Good shout anyway though Smithy.. Why is it always a 16/1 shot that does you?!?!?!September 27, 2006 at 16:18 #77987yeatsParticipant
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Hard luck smithy, well sussed out but these handicappers take some beating don’t they.September 27, 2006 at 21:48 #77988Chompy Draw BoyMember
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Man On The Spoon is one of the biggest dodgers in racing, won’t matter what mark she’s in off next time, she still won’t do it. Dropped the lot at RiponSeptember 28, 2006 at 07:13 #77989
Quote: from yeats on 5:18 pm on Sep. 27, 2006[br]Hard luck smithy, well sussed out but these handicappers take some beating don’t they.<br>
I didn’t suss anything out – I just wanted to know how the handicapper could rate her as though she wouldn’t be as effective on the AW on the evidence of one run. I am still none the wiser, irrespective of the result.
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