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In the last couple of days we have had:
1) Some Wallace ‘job’ beast that shortened quickly to fav, with very little money matched, being trotted up at the start. RUK’s commentator said there didn’t appear to be a problem and that’s how it looked on the TV screen. It was withdrawn nonetheless. Can anyone remember the last time this didn’t happen on a bank holiday? Maybe it will get better over the next few days, like Le Soleil, and he’ll be the subject of another gamble.
2) Two horse pulling out of the sprint at Beverley. The curse of stalls 1 and 2 strikes again. When was the last time this didn’t happen at Beverley?
3) The fav in the Chester Cup being withdrawn shortly after suffering the ‘Rondo effect’ (being clipped into 4/1 and the 20p r4 bracket) by the bookie with closest links to Ballydoyle.
And people still don’t think there’s a problem with the policing of non-runners in this country?
I haven’t even mentioned Teofilio.
(Edited by Glenn at 12:07 pm on May 9, 2007)
Quote: from Friggo on 3:54 pm on May 7, 2007[br]Glenn,
You seem to be omitting the fact that value was available at some point from the market opening until it’s close with the bookmakers. That’s right, ‘the scum’. In fact, through working with Hills, who flag up these sorts of races to their staff, I can tell you that it happens a lot more than sceptics would like to believe.
Forgive my ignorance, but why do Hills feel it necessary to "flag up these sorts of races to their staff"?
So that the staff can say "sorry, win only sir" or "you have can have £10 to win and £5 to place". Hence the need for £25 of dud bets for every £5 of wafer thin place value.
No, it’s not to stop folk having £10 E/W on, it’s for standard PTL purposes. When a single bet subjects us to a certain liability, it has to be notified to security. There is a second, higher threshold with which PTL (or Permission To Lay) must be granted. It will always be granted, it’s merely to allow security to spot if a pattern for such betting develops in the area. ‘Bad E/W’ races have been particular targets in the past, so extra vigilance is asked for in taking large bets for these races. The money involved would have to be far, far greater than the £10 you state before any of this would take place, we’re talking into the thousands here.
You may find this hard to believe, but you are not the best qualified to speak on every single issue on this forum. Don’t speculate about betting shop procedure to support your over-sceptical views on bookmakers when there are several members here employed by said high-street firms.
I think I’m reasonably qualified to speak about my own experiences! The last three times I’ve been to my local Hills, my £10 each-ways were refused and I was either offered win only or half the place.
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