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It’s a shame the pleasing and IMHO rather proud terms Negro and Negress are rarely heard nowadays, presumably because they’re now considered pejorative.
It doesn’t sound that politcally correct to me to steriotype anyone who decides to buy a Daily Mail as a tory either.
Surely that’s much less a stereotype, and much more a percentage call based on what political persuasion of person the ideologies of the paper is most likely to attract.
Where either a right-wing paper, or any of its like-minded readers, can present a case to me on any issue in finer brush-strokes than just “it’s PC gone mad!”, or “send ’em back!”, then I will hear them out at the least (e.g. Meshaheer’s blog doesn’t push my buttons politically, but invests more than a degree of thought and consideration in the subject matter and is a frequently enjoyable read). Where they don’t, I don’t. I trust this helps.
Hopefully no one gets too upset about these absurd proposals,
I don’t care for them an awful lot, as I mentioned earlier, as they don’t seem to be predicated on any particular grasp on PC as an ethos, and could only serve to give genuine anti-sexism, anti-racism and anti-homophobia measures a bad name.
I’m afraid the type of slandering that Jeremy Graysons takes part in about the evil Tory’s
Careful, sir – I’ve never in four and a half years on here said that everything the Conservative stand for is beyond reproach. As such a broad political church, one which at its most compatible (to my own values) includes fellow pro-Europeans such as Ken Clarke, it would be idiotic to pretend otherwise.
only goes to reinforce people’s perception that none of the three party’s can account for how they feel.
The LibDems account for how I feel in the main, as has been documented on here often enough; though at the same time I think the lurch towards becoming a tax-cutting party under NIck Clegg recently lays contrary to one of the core values the party has held dear for quite some time, and it uneases me somewhat.
HTH,
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Marble – on closer inspection it looks as if Mesh’s blog hasn’t been updated for quite a few months, but here be it;
http://parkergeorgemedia.blogspot.com/
I think you and Mesh are friends on Facebook, aren’t you? I know the two of you had a few natters on Conservative policy on here a while back. In the most recent past it’s been a case of me seeing articles or groups she’s linked to when they appear on my Facebook homepage, and then navigating to them as I see appropriate.
As one of TRF’s political animals I’m guessing you must be loving conference season just now, sir. I don’t think it’s much of an exaggeration to describe Mr Brown’s keynote speech this afternoon as a career-defining (or, if you prefer, sh*t or bust) one, no?
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PS I’m currently in the process of moving flat and have dug up all my old notes from a former life running the European Public Information Centre network for North Yorkshire Libraries. Please God let me have kept the speech notes delivered at one of the AGMs around 2000ish by a then relatively unknown Ed Balls, if only to see if it bears any resemblance to him ideologically nearly a decade on! I’ll post the notes up here if I can find them and if they’re interesting…
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Nick Cleggs stance on tax cuts has turned me against the Liberal Party; to me it was the main issue that defined them….a hope that the electorate would not put personal greed before the good of everyone else and, heaven forbid that I should think this about polititians these days…honesty. Years ago it was James Callaghans speech at party conference that made me a labour voter; I don’t know what I’ll think after this afternoon….I do feel though, that Gordon Brown is a thoroughly decent man who just happens to be a polititian at a time when it is all about personality rather than substance. The Labour Party have been in power for too long; they are tired and have lost their way…chatting to a friend at work a few months ago he said that, to save all the money involved in elections why didn’t we just automatically have a change of govenment from Labour to Conservative every 10 years; we were both nodding our heads in agreement until al ittle light bulb went on over his head and he said ‘that isn’t democracy is it?’
I don’t think I know Mesh
Ah, I thought I’d remembered Mesh touting you to get involved with some of her party activities in London off the back of the "Conviction Politicians" thread on here, but possibly not. I’ll PM you.
Be assured the contents of Mr Balls’ trousers hold, have held, and always will hold, no interest to me whatsoever.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Nick Cleggs stance on tax cuts has turned me against the Liberal Party; to me it was the main issue that defined them….
Yep, that’s certainly the issue with them over which I’m having the most ideological gripes at present. That, plus the fact that the party’s support for Europe, whilst still there, has become palpably less vocal and conspicuous under Mr Clegg than arguably any of his antecedents in my lifetime. As both he and Chris Huhne are former MEPs, I wasn’t expecting that, regardless of which of them became leader.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
[That, plus the fact that the party’s support for Europe, whilst still there, has become palpably less vocal and conspicuous under Mr Clegg than arguably any of his antecedents in my lifetime. As both he and Chris Huhne are former MEPs, I wasn’t expecting that, regardless of which of them became leader.
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Perhaps they have finally seen sense and realised what a stupid, ill conceived concept the European Union is and the sooner we get out of the undemocratic, money leeching organisation with its ridiculous directives, gross fiscal mismanagement and Mickey Mouse currency the better.
Were any of those things actually true, Paul, maybe they would.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Were any of those things actually true, Paul, maybe they would.
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Come on Jeremy – take off the rose coloured spectacles – I don’t want to start a “What Have The Roman’s Done For Us?” thread – but any possible benefits of being in Europe are far outweighed by the disadvantages.
Ill Conceived – as a trading treaty there was possibly some logic. To harmonise laws and rules across divergent nations is an impossibility. the social and lifestyle attitudes differ so much across Europe any attempt to harmonise is fraught with difficulties.
Undemocratic – more powers being passed to Europe. Decisions being made by the Council Of Europe. Constitutional changes being pushed through without most voters having a say – when the voters do get a say, as in Ireland, it is given short shrift. Supporters of integration may say the current proposal is not a constitutional change – that is complete bollocks, the substance is the same as the proposed and rejected constitution. The European Parliament is impotent and does not have any form of decision making role. I did not have a say in who is President of France or Chancellor of Germany yet they have a say in how my live is run.
Money Leeching – The CAP should be enough to cover that one. Why should our taxes be used to finance inefficient farmers in France and Italy, road building projects in Spain, development projects in former members of the Eastern bloc when there are far more pressing social needs that have to be addressed in this country.
Ridiculous Directives – where do you want me to start with those? Even ignoring the ones that irritated the Daily Mail – we are grossly overregulated in areas like Health and Safety
Gross Fiscal Mismanagement – which corruption scandal shall I begin with here?
Mickey Mouse Currency – attempting to impose a single currency across a range of disparate nations does not work. The Euro is not a strong currency. It is despised by many upon whom it was imposed.
If Government Ministers and Civil Servants spent less time fannying around with European issues and spent more time concentrating on the needs of this country then maybe this country would not be the sh*t hole it is now.
Now I am the first to admit I have always been vehemently anti-European integration. When we were allowed to have a say in a referendum I voted against it (I have to say the only time in my life I have ever voted in support official Labour policy and against the official Conservative policy – boy did that hurt!!!) and I admit there is nothing at all that would persuade me it was a good idea. Indeed if there is further European integration and the likes of Germany and France start dictating our foreign and fiscal policy then I will be on the first flight out of here, never to return.
(((Whisper it, but mine was a throwaway comment on what’s not an EU thread, Paul…)))
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
(((Whisper it, but mine was a throwaway comment on what’s not an EU thread, Paul…)))
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One of the few topics that will rattle my cage, as you may have guessed
I think the thread title is perfect to discuss the EU
Whatever one’s views on the EU, what is a disgrace is that the electorate have never had a chance to vote for or against it. The referendum under Ted Heath was – as far as 99.9% of the electorate was concerned – to be a member of a “Common Market” – nothing more and nothing less. Thus our current membership of the EU has no democratic legitimacy.
If there were to be another referendum re. our membership of the EU (as it now is) as Nick Clegg said he was for and we voted to stay in – then fine; I’d have no argument.
We seem to be in an era when politicians of all 3 main parties seem to believe they know best – and must not allow the public to distract them from their chosen path; a political elite (exemplified by the EU).
Anyway – as was stated earlier – this isn’t what this thread started out to discuss.
[/i]Do you mean this Paul
Do you mean this Paul
The very one – what a classic!!!
Hi Paul,
Agree with most of what you are saying, but:
Money Leeching – The CAP should be enough to cover that one. Why should our taxes be used to finance inefficient farmers in France and Italy, road building projects in Spain, development projects in former members of the Eastern bloc when there are far more pressing social needs that have to be addressed in this country.
Always nice to know that there are a few ordinary people out there benefiting from my taxes…the suspicion is that if any potential government in this country could get their hands on this money, it would be pissed up against the wall.
Just a few nuggets from the article marble linked to…
The National Children’s Bureau, which receives £12 million a year, mainly from Government funded organisations, ..
The 366-page guide for staff in charge of pre-school children, called Young Children and Racial Justice, warns: "Racist incidents among children in early years settings tend to be …
The guide goes on to warn that children might also "react negatively to a culinary tradition other than their own by saying ‘yuk’".
Staff are told: "No racist incident should be ignored….
Nurseries are encouraged to report as many incidents as possible to their local council…
Nobody condones racism but bloody hell – reporting a 3 year old to the council !
That blog link of mine is redundant – I believe I deleted it a while ago. The person I shared it with is no longer a friend of mine.
I don’t post as much on TRF these days as most of my life is taken up by work (which is politics) and I don’t blog either. That said, my political views are probably to the right of most people on this forum
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