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    Avatar photoJAMIEDB9007
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    With Cheltenham being in the not too distant future, would anybody share their thoughts on what sort of form the Henderson stable is in? With so many horses coming back from injury and you could argue they need the run, would you say the horses are running well? I don’t just mean Sprinter Sacre / Simonsig etc as they have had long layoffs, I mean generally. They haven’t had many runners recently and those that have been out I can’t really tell. L’ami Serge has jumped well but beat nothing in exercise canters. Altior seems in good form with himself. But if you were keen on some of Henderson’s horses for the festival, would it be fair to say you’d be confident they would give a good account of themselves? With Mullins dominating most races in the market, and he obviously has an envious battalion of quality horses, you would want your stable to be in flying form if you’re going to be backing against him.
    Is the lack of recent runners due to a virus in the yard? Or is it because he doesn’t like running in horses in heavy winter ground? I’d appreciate some opinions. Thanks.

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    thewexfordman
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    If it all goes well for him he has the potential to win everything but will probably end up winning **** all

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    Avatar photoZamorston
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    I wouldn’t worry too much with still 8 weeks to go…He’s still the top festival trainer out there despite Mullins recent grip…and he’s done something Willie has failed to do yet in winning all four championship races…I don’t think he’s forgot what it takes to ready them for Cheltenham…

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    Many of the potential Cheltenham protaganists lack a recent run and Nicky will also be without Geraghty and AP ( a loss to the yard in terms of schooling the horses, too ) although i rate NDB.

    They don’t have many handicap chasers and the potential RSA contenders haven’t run yet this season. Lessons In Milan did have an entry the other day but no more.

    The lack of runners in December suggested something wrong with the horses, though the 31% strike rate was typical Henderson. Maybe it’s the soft winter ground, a bug bear of Henderson’s.

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    For most trainers – having fewer runners than their normal number would be a negative for “trainer form”. However, Henderson tends to think his horses are better away from soft/heavy ground (even when they’re not) so doesn’t have many runners on it. Really good current strike rate suggests Henderson is in good form at the moment (an 8 out of 10 if looking at it that way). I’d certainly rate it as a positive for near to hand races Jamie. However, as Zammer says, too far away from the Cheltenham Festival for current trainer form to mean anything.

    Every race I have a bet in I go through every trainer’s form. Rarely looking further than the last 20 runners, it can be as few as 6 if those are winners and/or big priced placed horses. Rarely going further back than two weeks, and never more than three.

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    Makes sense, cheers guys..

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    A few runners in the handicap hurdle tomorrow but nothing in the more valuable handicap chase – it’s been a familiar and disappointing pattern for far too long.

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    Several valuable chases tomorrow and Henderson has one runner. 13 chase wins all season.

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    I think the Shaneshill price with the Henderson horse is the wrong way around today. trainer form and going conditions in the Mullins horse favour.

    License to kill the bookies

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    Nothing in the chases at Sandown today.

    It’s like this almost every Saturday.

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    The criminal probably put most potential owners off by managing to **** up an Arkle + Neptune winner, a Gold Cup winner, 2 Champion Chase winners, a Champion Hurdle winner, a Hennessy winner, Captain Conan, Aegean Dawn and now seemingly Peace and Co in the last 5 years. Perhaps explains why he doesn’t have enough horses to put together more than 13 chase wins by February. Why would anybody send him any horse when you see ‘400’ or ‘600’ or whatever 3-digit number next to the horse’s name, with ‘Nicky Henderson’ below it in italics? Would you send your horse to his yard? Not to mention the Moonlight Venture or whatever the horse’s name was scandal. Didn’t even have a winner at the Hennessy meet IIRC.

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    Expect oo seven to absolutely bolt up today against the unbeaten fagan who’s ran in some poor contests.
    My guess will be 12/1 for the bartlett by tea time.

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    Case in point today. Musselburgh 4.30, Criminal Nicky has 2 runners. 304 + 428 day absences.

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    The yard will come good s few weeks before Chelts as will Jonjos hopefully and then you can check out a few for the handicaps for sure :yahoo:

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    O O Seven going for the Neptune according to reports. Henderson already playing down his chances by saying he is a chaser and for next year. I personally thought that the extra distance helped him, the horse didn’t look like he wanted to battle as his head was turning but Tinkler straighten him up well. I suppose Cheltenham is a different course and the Neptune will feel further than it is anyway so should be a bonus he gets further.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1232826
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    Thanks Nathan, yes I seen the comments by henderson and tinker.
    I thought he stayed on and battled well was quite suprised when I heard what he said. But I’m sure henderson knows more than me.

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    You can add Beat That to the list of promising horses Criminal Nicky messed up recently.

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