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There were names being highly fancied for the Dubai World Cup meeting of which I was aware of, but had heard nothing of – now, those few are confirmed as runners.
Finsceal Beo and Darjina are to clash yet again in the Dubai Duty Free.
Erwan Charpy’s Rosberg competes in the Godolphin Mile and a couple of American hopes in the same race include Diamond Stripes and Golden Arrow.
Munaddam is set to take his place in the Dubai Golden Shaheen with Esperamos.
Doug O’Neill’s Notional is a possibility but that is based on if he gains a late invitation into the Dubai Duty Free.
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Doug O’Neil must be crazy. Great Hunter and Notional haven’t shown they belong in a major stakes race since coming back from their injuries.
If Finsceal Beo and Darjina are on top of their game they will be tough to beat. What allowances do they get?
The "likely entries" have been released by the Dubai Racing Club. Check them out in the first post.
If Finsceal Beo and Darjina are on top of their game they will be tough to beat. What allowances do they get?
5lb from the Gentlemen, I believe.
Does anyone know whether CURLIN is on steroids [Bute, Lasix, etc]? Are they illegal for use on horses in Dubai and if so, will the effects start to wear off now he’s been there a good few weeks?
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Does anyone know whether CURLIN is on steroids [Bute, Lasix, etc]? Are they illegal for use on horses in Dubai and if so, will the effects start to wear off now he’s been there a good few weeks?
Speculation is that he is, because:
a. He’s big.
b. Asmussen was suspened at one point for some kind of drug related offense (for a horse, not himself).Not sure how quickly the effects would wear off, although you’d think if they were worried, they would have had his prep race in the US.
Librettist, Bute (painkiller) and Lasix (diuretic) are not steroids. You cannot use them in a race in Dubai, just like you cannot use them over here. However he could in theory train on them if necessary (as we do here) as long as he was off them long enough before the race that he had a zero threshold in any post race test.
Steroids are also banned and take much longer to come off. With all the adverse publicity gained by Brass Hat when he was positive to steroids in Dubai a few years ago, I’m sure that Mr Asmussen won’t be doing anything on this front.
It’s the only concern with Curlin. What did Curlin use in the States?
Lasix for bleeders, Bute for those with sore knees.
I wouldn’t like to know if he uses the latter and is unable to do so here. Wouldn’t have mattered in the Maktoum Challenge Round II.
Curlin did use Lasix when he won the Breeders’ Cup. It is possible he also used Bute but trainers don’t need to declare that in the States.
However he didn’t use either when he won the Jaguar Trophy in Dubai earlier this month and lack of medication didn’t stop Cigar, Silver Charm, Captain Steve, Pleasantly Perfect, Roses In May or Invasor from taking the World Cup back to the States.
Hi guys and gals
I have been keen on the chances of Vermilion to improve on last years 4th and chase home Curlin in the cup this year, after connections stating he was a bigger and stronger horse and will be better suited to this years renewal.
However, confidence has been slightly tempered by our Japanese poster’s comments that their horses have had a far from ideal preparation and may not ship in top form.
Can anybody shed any more light on the situation for me please?Regards,
Jason.However, confidence has been slightly tempered by our Japanese poster’s comments that their horses have had a far from ideal preparation and may not ship in top form.
Can anybody shed any more light on the situation for me please?First of all, a few facts: Iide Kenshin, Admire Aura, Vodka, and Vermilion left for Dubai as planned, and after one full day of transportation via Hong Kong they arrived in the UAE last weekend. Among them, Vermilion and Admire Aura had entered the international quarantine stables in Kyoto since 5 March while Vodka since 25 Feb (not sure about Iide Kenshin). This was of course a precaution against EI.
Please remember the UAE quarantine rule for Japanese horses; they must stay at infection-free facilities during at least 3 weeks before the departure. Observing a coming back of EI at one of major training facilities near Tokyo on 23 Feb, Vodka’s connections quickly decided to move to the safe area during the night on 25 Feb.
On the other hand, connections of Vermilion had delayed leaving his training centre (the same as with Vodka) for the stable to the very limit, in favour of being disqualified rather than being insufficiently prepared for the race. Surely it was a gamble, and yet they managed to escape just in time because on 13 March, about a week after the Vermilion’s move to quarantine, the infection fire arrived at where he had been, leaping across facilities.
So I would say Vermilion was very lucky and has been best prepared among the Japanese contenders while I have a doubt about Vodka’s form although racing papers unanimously said it was very good.
–From here down to the end, my dogmatic guess of Vermilion’s chance in the DWC–
Replying the same question in an interview with a Japanese racing magazine, Michael Kinane, the Irish jockey, told: ‘It depends on whom he compete against there.’ I think of it as a thoughtful, neutral assessment.No doubt he is much better and stronger than a year before when he was walloped by Invasor, a 15 lengths’ defeat. This time the gap would be narrowed to 4-5 lengths, or hopefully less.
Having said that, our races on the dirt has been on a low level in comparison with turf. Also some influential Japanese trainers make comments that winning the DWC would need an exceptionally fast *turf* horse full of stamina. ‘It’s like a sprint race of 2000m.’ (M Kinane) Most of our dirt horses couldn’t keep up with the pace of the race.
Please see the RPRs of Vermilion’s recent races. I find it a relatively unbiased measure of Japanese horses, turf or dirt. Anyway, something like what occurred with Discreet Cat last year or Authorized in the Arc could happen to any horse this year. Who knows?
Admire Aura is the prosperous one with huge upside.
Vermillion may just not be of the standard. Uma is spot on – you really do need a fast turf horse if he/she is neither of USA or Middle Eastern origin.
I think the DWC is down to Curlin, Asiatic Boy and a fair amount of daylight. The Eclipse Horse Of The Year should hack up – he really, really should.
No doubt he is much better and stronger than a year before when he was walloped by Invasor, a 15 lengths’ defeat. This time the gap would be narrowed to 4-5 lengths, or hopefully less.
First of all Uma, thank you very much for replying in such detail. All excellent information and it is appreciated greatly.
Secondly, I apologize. As my response is rather poor in comparison, and can’t all be excused by time or intoxication.
I Think 4-5 if it was Invasor (not what you meant I fear) this year will be plenty good enough to make Curling take notice and too much for the rest.
Sheikh Hamdan summed up Asiatic Boys last twelve months when talking to the press this week, "They have played with his preparations,â€There were reasons fro Premium Tap’s failure in the Kings Cup. We interviewed King Abduallah’s racing manager on the Carnival programme and he stated the horse had been sick three weeks before the race and hence was short of fitness on the day and ran like it.
At that stage he said he was only 20% to run in the DWC which is a worry in case again his prep has been hurried.
Of course last year he had also largely been trained in States and ran under Kimmel’s name in DWC so how a year in Saudi will have affected him is also an unknown.His 2nd last year however would give him prospects of making the frame. He and Vermilion appeal as this years each way prospects especially if Jalil finally draws an inside gate and has to take some kickback.
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