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  • #26088
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    1. Rack up debts that you don’t give a stuff about (again).

    2. Write off much of your debt via an IVA.

    3. Add in a mass of CCJ’s against yourself.

    4. Declare yourself bankrupt (again).

    5. Pass your facilities and horses to your son, via him applying in his unblemished name.

    6. Go to 1??

    A simple plan indeed.

    I missed his interview with Lydia Hislop post Navajo Chief’s win yesterday, but apparently his effective ban was everybody else’s fault. Here’s a report on his licence refusal:

    Alan Jarvis’s attitude toward the significant debts he incurred with Doncaster Bloodstock Sales and his behaviour in acting with “commercial lack of integrity” at the sales were among the reasons the trainer’s appeal against the BHA’s decision not to renew his licence was thrown out.

    Jarvis had been declared bankrupt for a second time in September last year – he has also been declared bankrupt in 1987 – relating to debts owed to DBS of £868,366 and the licensing committee stated that it was “struck by Mr Jarvis’s attitude” toward the debt, with him showing “no understanding that anything he did was improper”.

    The licensing committee initially described Jarvis as acting with “serious commercial immorality”, but this was downgraded to “serious commercial lack of integrity” by the appeal board.

    The licensing committee said Jarvis had acted in a manner “not befitting somebody with the privilege of holding a trainer’s licence.”

    It continued: “Moreover, the committee has been struck by Mr Jarvis’s attitude, expressed by himself and through his counsel. He has shown no understanding that anything he did was improper. Indeed, his primary stance has been to blame DBS for allowing him the credit, and then pursuing him for it.

    “Such an attitude is incompatible with suitability, especially given Mr Jarvis’s particular history, which should have made him acutely aware of the dangers of incurring credit; the necessity of paying debts due; and the rights of creditors to enforce their debts.

    “He is a man who has now been bankrupted twice; compromised his debts in an IVA once; had two companies for which he trained go under; been in front of this Committee on four previous occasions, each time connected to debts he had run up within the horseracing industry; and been subject to a large number of judgment debts and consequent enforcement.”

    In a statement released by his barrister Roderick Moore on Tuesday, Jarvis accepted he fell into debt, but regrets that DBS “carried out threats of an objection to his licence and bankruptcy as a means of debt recovery” and said he was “very disappointed” to have not been granted a full licence by the BHA.

    The decision by the appeal board brought an abrupt end to Jarvis’s training career, which started in 1969, with his son Tim applying to take over his string. In the meantime, Jarvis will operate on a temporary licence for the next two weeks.

    A BHA spokesman said: “BHA has received and is currently considering an application from Tim Jarvis for a trainer’s licence. The licensing team will notify him in due course of its finding and the next step in the process. There is no provision for a trainer to simply pass on or transfer their licence to their chosen successor.

    “Each applicant must make their own individual application for a licence which will be considered, as with all other applications, on its merits with due regard to all relevant factors.”

    Mike

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    BHA have refused to let Jarvis’s son have the license.

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    Good riddance to Alan Jarvis.

    They should’ve locked him away and thrown away the key.

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    Nothing to do with racing but the name Jarvis brings to mind a good lad I went to school with – St Mary’s College Middlesbrough. Not seen him since the 70s. The lad used to hammer me at table tennis, he did go on to play for England, mind. I’m not much into footie but believe his son has done quite well for himself in that field.

    Just thought I’d share that with you :)

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    What an excellent and brave decision by the BHA, although Jarvis jr is appealing for a reassessment.

    Marcus Armytage in The Telegraph:

    "When Tim Jarvis’s application goes before the licensing committee they could reject it completely, seek assurances that his father Alan will not be training the horses in any way, or impose specific and strict conditions on him.

    Although training winners is always perceived as the gauge by which a trainer is judged, clearly an ability to pay bills and to run a sustainable business all has to be part of the equation."

    The second sentence is key – those who willingly ignore their bills are not only undesirable but also have a clear and unfair advantage over competing trainers.

    Setting a relative up via what Armytage accurately called a ‘flag of convenience’ is unacceptable.

    Mike

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    And that unfair advantage is particularly significant in the case of a bloodstock sale. Not exactly a problem outbidding a rival who wishes to purchase the same horse if you know in advance that you have no intention of paying.

    Surely the BHA line should be that if Jarvis Jnr takes over the licence, he also takes over the debts.

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    I applaud the BHA’s decision. Had his son got the licence there would have been zero change. Though to be fair, Tim is not like his parents – he’s a decent bloke. I worked for AJ whilst back changing my US visa so only there for a month but I could see straight away what went on. I got on well with AJ and he’s one shrewd cookie but that doesn’t give him the right to fleece his suppliers and then walk away.

    It’s about time the BHA took a firmer stance on trainers who continuously bankrupt themselves and set themselves up again under a new company. I took over briefly from a trainer who was serving a year’s ban due to "suspicious betting patterns" and he had just bankrupted himself to the tune of £120k. Foolishly the BHA didn’t ban him completely and he was allowed to continue in the yard so I was just a name on the licence. When I realised nothing had changed (including the "suspicious betting patterns") I walked away after 6 weeks.

    At the same time, the BHA need stronger powers to help out those trainers who get into trouble by owners not paying. I am personally still owed thousands by a couple of people and it has a knock on effect. I however chose to draw stumps and pay off those I owed instead of choosing bankruptcy!!

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    Alan Jarvis let me down for the Tote Jackpot back in the day when his horse Another Jade couldn’t catch Go Hever Golf at Chester. It wasn’t the trickiest card in the world but the Jackpot had rolled over for a few meetings and it would have been nice to go through the card. 5 winners and a second it was though :evil:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    RUK have just said that Tim Jarvis has now been granted a license on review.

    However, there are a number of strings attached along the lines of him not representing his father in any way and that his father is not involved in the yard.

    Mike

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    Can’t imagine they will be able to do much about him being around. Karl Burke pretty much carried on as normal when he was banned.

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    Report on the Post website about Jarvis Snr turning up in the winners enclosure with his son last night at Newcastle. After offering a convoluted and barely credible explanation, he ended by saying –

    "If an owner gives me tickets and invites me to go racing it is none of their [the BHA’s] business. They don’t control me, I can do what I want and go racing when I want."

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    Another

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    article I dug up from my cuttings folder the other day, albeit one dating back a couple of years, gave a summary of the licensed handlers set to have their training establishments flattened by the construction of the HS2 high-speed railway line.

    Based as they are in Twyford, Buckinghamshire, and assuming no change to HS2’s intended route in the interim, Team Jarvis is one of those.

    Let’s see to what extent Tim Jarvis’s tenure *does* constitute a concerted effort to extend the family involvement in training horses for the foreseeable future, rather than just represent a final brief coda before the diggers have the final say.

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