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John Mc Crirrick was ranting on about the drift in the betting on Wednesday onYokozuna which went from a morning mark on betfair of 1.727 (8/11) and started at 3/1 in the afternoon.
He was linking the morning drift to the horse rearing up in the stalls once the gates were released as if the race was fixed.
The Racing Post wrote yesterday the result left a bitter taste in some punters mouths.
Comments such as this are totally inaccurate and misleading to those who had bothered to look beyond a forecasted odds on favourite being beaten and they would have noticed Yokozuma was actually a very cheap purchase at £12,500 gns. It had raced once on turf and was racing on an all weather surface for the first time.
The winner of the race Mister Green (cost more than Yokozuma) and was actually well backed into a clear favourite and looking at the form of the related horses in the family there have been some good results so clearly not that suprising it could have been expected to run well.
Mister Green held some fancy entries including a listed race and also in the Supersprint at Newbury. So clearly held in high regard at home.
The Racing Post noted that the winner was ”clearly geared up” so how can they comment the horse that drifted and got beat left a bitter taste?
So the market and those that backed Mister Green who started the 11/4 favourite got it exactly right.
The morning prices on betfair are not always a true reflection of the market later in the day.
Trainer Chris Wall had Dalla Finestra and Valatrix both in the same race yesterday with the former a joint second favourite but the live betting which showed 12/1 into 5s on Valatrix showed what one was expected to perform well. Valatrix led from the start and duly won so why was this race not deemed to have left a bitter taste in punters mouths?
There was a 1/4 shot yesterday that finished last of 3 and never looked like winning and again why did they not write that result left a bitter taste in some punters mouths?
Disgraceful comments from McCririck, he should be challenged regards them by someone in racing authority. He said the race was fixed and people knew beforehand it would lose, on what evidence did he arrive at this opinion? The horse reared just as the stalls opened.
On this showing it looks a shrewd move by C4 to try and get rid of him, maybe ATR should do the same, the guy’s past is sell by date.Say what you like about McCrirrick and he probably was wrong about the Dunlop horse but have you heard any other journalist / presenter raise the Rule 4 or maximum runner limit this week?
Racing harms itself the majority of the time imo.
Everything McCrirrick does and says is for effect and he seeks the publicity from being controversial. A complete fool and not the kind of person I like to see being seen as the voice of racing.
He should be gelded and put out to grass ASAP.
Agree with Seagull’s comments about Yokozuna who had only previously raced once when he started as an unfancied 20/1 chance and finished 2nd to a very short priced fav in a 5 runner race. I was very surprised that this horse was odds on in the morning and Seagull correctly states that the market got it right which was the reason for the odds drifting.
There was nothing sinister about this race and ATR, McCrirrick and the RP were just making a fuss out of nothing and they should examine the evidence closer before making irrational comments which does no good to horse racing and were totally unjustified on this occasion.
Pete
Say what you like about McCrirrick and he probably was wrong about the Dunlop horse but have you heard any other journalist / presenter raise the Rule 4 or maximum runner limit this week?
Racing harms itself the majority of the time imo.
CR
I agree with what you say, McCrirrick does highlight some good points however I also agree with Wallace. How can you take seriously anyone who comes out with the rubbish with regards to Wednesday. McCrirrick too often goes off on one and therefore the important issues he raises suffer from this.
Say what you like about McCrirrick and he probably was wrong about the Dunlop horse but have you heard any other journalist / presenter raise the Rule 4 or maximum runner limit this week?
Yes.
for about 18 hours hundreds of punters,( obviously mugs according to several on this forum) traded thousands of pounds on Yokozuna at odds around the 8/11 mark.
Then 10 minutes before the race the REAL experts joined in and layed the horse out to 4.3 cos it had no chance,
imbelievable.
Not often I’m in agreement with Barrington Dennis, but some of the posters above must have come down with the last shower of rain.
I’m a bit of a fence sitter on this one. The Yarmouth form was potentially worth no more than a can of beans and I couldn’t have entertained backing it at odds on. Equally, he looked as though he’d very much benefit from the outing and I would never have entertained laying him at 7/2.
It was certainly an unsavoury drift and I think that anyone that called for the betting patterns to be investigated is well within their rights to. No-one has said the horse was stopped, but there were a host of confident layers that seemed pretty sure the horse wouldn’t win.
Its a bit rich the racing comic critising anyone .. do they still accept adverts from the Brimardon outfit?
Barry Dennis,
You have missed the point.In times when horse race betting turnover is down (apart form some really heavy losers that Ladbrokes have) if punters think they have been somehow cheated by reading that those who had backed the morning favourite have been left with a bad taste in their mouths they will find some other sport to bet on.
I never suggested that those who backed Yokuzuma at odds on were mugs but clearly it was a very weak race and therefore would not take much of any horse to win.
Your hoppo Mc Crirrick was suggesting the race was fixed as he linked the drifting morning favourite to the fact it reared up in the stalls.
So was he accusing Ed Dunlop or the jockey in deliberately fixing the race or not?
If he was why did he not bend someones ear as there was no stewards enquiry and also no reports of betfair contacting the BHA with reports of dodgy trading?
The Racing Post followed this by writing the race would have ‘left a bad taste in some punters mouths’.
But they also wrote the winner was ‘clearly geared up’ to win and had some classy races lined up in the future so they cant have it both ways.
I am no expert but just before the race there only real money on Betfair was for Mister Green and that is why it started favourite.
Seagull
I see no incompatibility in the Post’s comments. The problem wasn’t that Mister Green won, but that Yokozuma performed so poorly after the dramatic drift.
In the good old days the horse would have drifted to 15/8 with Barry and his mates, they would have took a lot more money for it, the horse would have reared as the stalls opened, finished well beaten and there would not have been a word from McCririck & Co.
If there is any suspicious betting on any race it will be investigated unlike previously with Barry & his mates.
If McCriririck or anyone has any evidence lets have it, he should either put up or shut up instead of putting a slur on racing and Ed Dunlop.
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