stop at winner fav backing……

[Dolus]

There seems to be some confusion between SAW and loss recovery staking.

Billion is the only one on the right track

SAW Stop at a winner is just that – you stop at a winner.

The advantage of this (if there is an advantage) is that the bets have to be settled in the order they are written on the betting slip, not by the time the races are run. So you put the horse you think is your strongest as the first selection working through to the weakest.

This could create a surreal situation where your third horse is in the first race of the day and wins. You know that if your first two lose, the bet will stop at the third leg before your bet has even started.

An interesting SAW bet is to pick two horses and write out a betting slip as follows.

HORSE A £1 win
HORSE B £3 win
Stop at a winner

Then write out another slip

HORSE B £1 win
HORSE A £3 win
Stop at a winner

If both horses lose you lose £8

If both horses win you have £1 to win on each and get the £6 stakes back.

If one horse wins you get back £3 stakes, lose £1 and have £4 on the winner.

Never been able to make my mind up whether there is an advantage to this or if it is just a mind trick.

[cormack15]

Do bookies accept SAW bets which are ordered on the slip in a non-timely basis?

I wouldn’t have thought so but, to be fair, I’ve never tried it.

[Dolus]

Hi Cormack – taken from another forum

i have looked at the coral rules and they say;

‘Stop at a Winner’ bets are acceptable win or each-way and settled in the order written, a non-runner will not be counted as a winner and the bet will continue until one of the selections either occupies or dead heats for the first place.

I have never placed one of these bets myself but have read on various forums the trouble they cause because the betting shop staff do not understand them, so anyone thinking of placing one should get the bet checked and certified when placing it.

All I can say is that if bookies are willing to accept these bets then they cannot be much cop.

That what puzzles me about the bets I mentioned above. You are better off if only one of the two selections win so would they be better placed at two different bookmakers.

[cormack15]

You are better off if only one of the two selections win so would they be better placed at two different bookmakers.

Why would placing them at two different bookies help?

Interesting if Corals take those bets. It intuiitively feels that it could be exploited but I’m not sure how (and I am sure if it copuld be, as you point out Dolus, they would soon stop offering it!).

[Purwell]

I used to do such bets about 15 years ago (pre exchanges) and they were only accepted at SP, not sure if that is still the case?
This made it impossible to work out how to make a profit regardless of whereabouts in the bet the winner came, if indeed there was a winner anywhere!

I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways

[Dolus]

Why would placing them at two different bookies help?

I figure that if you placed those two bets at the same bookmaker and you were able to pick a winner on a regular basis they might wise up to the fact that you were making more with that one winner than when two came in so might refuse the bet.

Of course if it was me making the bet they would both lose on a regular basis

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