The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

Start of the NH season proper

Home Forums Horse Racing Start of the NH season proper

Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #1604350
    Avatar photoQuelle Farce
    Participant
    • Total Posts 903

    Cheltenham in October? Nah.

    Not even Chepstow and the Persian War.

    Listen. Royal Ascot is over, and the Pitmen’s derby was yesterday. Today it’s the Summer Cup at Uttoxeter, one of the greatest handicaps of the year.

    It’s time for the racing media to realise that the NH season is foremost now. Forget the flat season, it’s virtually over, it’s done (apart from the Arc, the Ebor, the Ayr Gold Cup and the Cesarewitch, obv).

    ‘Mon the Summer Cup.

    #1604351
    Avatar photoIanDavies
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 12996

    Sorry, QF, I’m rooted further in the past and for me the new season should be starting first Saturday in August at Newton Abbot.

    The 3.00 at Uttoxeter is a good race, though.

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1604521
    Avatar photoAndyRAC
    Participant
    • Total Posts 808

    Ha, even though the season started around the Friday/Saturday of Glorious Goodwood, I always presumed it was the Chepstow October meeting, which was live on BBC, with the Timeform 4YO Hurdle. Nowadays I’ve no idea.

    I do wish we’d have a proper off season, and a proper start of the season with a decent card to kick it off.

    #1604523
    Avatar photoIanDavies
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 12996

    That Chepstow meeting on BBC in October always made it feel like the season just properly started.

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1604531
    Avatar photopatriot1
    Participant
    • Total Posts 982

    As a kid that Saturday in October was one of my favourite days of the years. The jumps were back!!

    If you’d told me then that by the 2020s the meeting wouldn’t be on terrestrial tv……

    #1604532
    Avatar photoGingertipster
    Participant
    • Total Posts 34707

    For Summer jumping they need to water a hell of a lot. Too much.
    Doesn’t do the turf any good.
    Often jumping on genuine good-firm ground…. Not good for horses jumping.

    Not only do I think the Start of the NH season proper as being Chepstow.
    The start of the actual NH season should be Chepstow.

    Value Is Everything
    #1604586
    TakeYourTime
    Participant
    • Total Posts 729

    Thursday’s card at Tipperary would suggest the NH season is already heating up. The Grade 3 Grimes Hurdle could pass as a Grade 1 over here with Saint Roi and Shewearsitwell among the declarations.

    I don’t mind summer jumping for horses who prefer a quick surface or missed the previous season through injury. I don’t see it as being more dangerous particularly but the October Chepstow meeting is still the curtain raiser for the real season.

    #1604623
    Avatar photoAndyRAC
    Participant
    • Total Posts 808

    That Gd3 Grimes Hurdle used to be run on the same day as the Arc…..

    As for the old Chepstow meeting, it’s now a 2 dayer, and the Persian War has moved to the first day, a race which ITV usually broadcast, but that’s it. Similarly, Kempton’s Charisma Gold Cup and a decent 2m hurdle were usually shown on Ch4….the same day as the Cesarewitch/ Champion Stakes.

    Another change which looks fine in theory, but I don’t think it worked. As fans, we all knew what Chepstow early October meant. I’m also sure there was a 2 day Cheltenham meeting a few days before, as I recall an article in the Racing Post mentioning that ‘phase 2’ of the NH season has started. I presume that it is now what we call ‘The Showcase’ meeting…..

    #1604628
    Avatar photopatriot1
    Participant
    • Total Posts 982

    I think there used to be two Saturday meetings at Chepstow a fortnight apart, both on the beeb. The Persian War might have been on the second day. Now as Andy says they are on the same weekend.

    Going back to summer jumping. I think Worcester had so many meetings waterlogged off it made sense to move to summer racing. When I started going to Perth they only had around 8 or 9 meetings a year as they couldn’t race in the depths of winter. Now they can utilise June and july they are up to 15 race days.

    #1604637
    Avatar photoAndyRAC
    Participant
    • Total Posts 808

    I recall Chepstow having decent meetings at the start of October, November & December.

    The November meeting featured the Tote Silver Trophy H’cap Hurdle, won in 1989?? by Pipers Copse for Guy Harwood & Mark Perrett, beating one of Pipe’s.
    Then the Rehearsal Chase in December, and a decent second season chasers race (might have been the Arlington Chase series), Waterloo Boy just beating the novice Celtic Shot.

    #1604639
    Avatar photoIanDavies
    Blocked
    • Total Posts 12996

    My recollection of that first autumn BBC-televised NH meeting from Chepstow on Grandstand in October was the 3m Mercedes Benz Handicap Chase and the Free Handicap Hurdle for 4yo over 2m.

    A 3m Handicap Hurdle might have preceded those two contests.

    I am "The Horse Racing Punter" on Facebook
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ian_Davies_
    https://www.facebook.com/ThePointtoPointNHandFlatracingpunter/
    It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"

    #1604652
    runandskip84
    Participant
    • Total Posts 278

    Chepstow still had 2 different October saturdays until a few years ago when they moved Cheltenham’s showcase meeting a week later to avoid overshadowing Ascots champions/swamp day so Chepstow had to move.
    Fair play to them as it’s now developed into a cracking 2 days with great prize money.
    Those BBC saturdays at Chepstow in the 80s were big days and I hardly missed one.

Viewing 12 posts - 1 through 12 (of 12 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.