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- June 12, 2019 at 20:04 #1445169
I agree about Phoenix of Spain. I think the way this season is going with no stand outs and below par winners, it’s quite probable these horses will all beat each other depending on who is in the best form/has race run perfectly etc. If I was a layer I’d be laying heavily POS at that price.
June 12, 2019 at 20:11 #1445171I’ll be laying Phoenix of Spain. Would’ve preferred to see Magna Grecia in there though.
But I’ll still be laying the fav.
June 12, 2019 at 20:50 #1445173Have had what I consider a sneaky each way in this on SHAMAN at 16/1. He will love the ground and second to Persian King last time looks decent form and he is likely to turn up which is a bonus cos there are doubts about a few of these!!
June 12, 2019 at 21:43 #1445179I thought there was a strong pace bias at the curragh over the guineas weekend, most of the races I saw were won by the front runner or something ridden prominently
Nothing from the back was getting in to any of the races
So I will definitely be taking on Phoenix of Spain
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June 12, 2019 at 22:49 #1445185I wouldn’t be too worried about Charlie Hills form. His good ones are going to Royal Ascot. And I think POS will win.
June 12, 2019 at 23:15 #1445188I’m a big fan of Shaman too Raymo. May just be tempted by that 16s. Will be going through the race tonight at some point so I’ll come edit this post if I do back him. At the minute though.. it’s looking like a lay for Phoenix of Spain only.
June 16, 2019 at 22:52 #1445544You couldn’t not be impressed by POS last time, considering it was his 1st run of the season he looked a monster
I think if you’re good enough (best in div) trainer form shouldn’t be too much of a worry. Did anyone worry about Frankel if Cecil was going through a bad spell.
That said Too Darn Hot has done little wrong imo and Gosden has had longer to get him spot on for this. I think Frankie thought he had them all cover in Ireland and may be looking to place TDH nearer the pace for this.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
June 17, 2019 at 15:14 #1445626I think if you’re good enough (best in div) trainer form shouldn’t be too much of a worry. Did anyone worry about Frankel if Cecil was going through a bad spell.
Charlie Hills is currently not in anything like a “bad spell”, Nathan. That’s going way too far. Just nowhere near the outstanding form he was in the week of the Irish 2000 Guineas; thriving inwardly POS ran a career best. But now there’s good chance POS won’t be able to run to the same rating. Point is that if believing POS probably only be capable of running around 3 lbs less than he did in Ireland (and that’s if everything else goes his way too) it means rivals have a better chance of beating him than form/betting suggests. Making a difference to whether each horse is a value/good bet or not. Even Frankel wasn’t always at his very best, however with him it didn’t matter. POS is no Frankel; true POS is currently the “best in division”, but doesn’t have much in hand.
Value Is EverythingJune 17, 2019 at 15:20 #1445628Too Darn Hot 5/2
POS looks like he’s improved from 2 to 3 but he also had the Curragh bias in his favour & TDH was turning up just 9 days after a Dante run when he was under-cooked. Rest in behind are not great shakes (I liked KOC after his Sandown win but he’s very quirky) and with POS to beat, i have to be with TDH now he’s had time to come to himself after a setback. Stiff mile should suit also, for all that i think he stayed more than fine in the Dante.
June 17, 2019 at 21:06 #1445661Backed Phoenix of Spain last time simply as the price was enticing despite doubts that he would be able to reverse form with Magna Grecia & Too Darn Hot. But no value tomorrow.
No bet for me but fancy Too Darn Hot to blow these away and live up to his remarkable 2yr old form.
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June 18, 2019 at 11:17 #1445734From my preview:
4:20 – St James’ Palace Stakes (Group 1)
Operation get the favourite (Phoenix of Spain) beaten! I have laid him at 2.6 and anything beating him would be a good result. I think that was far too short and I’m not surprised to see him drift slightly in the recent days. He was flattered by a good draw and a clear run at the Curragh when winning the Irish 2000 Guineas and must back up that clear personal best. I’m happy to take him on. King Of Comedy has trod the path of last year’s winner of this Without Parole with a minor win followed up in the Heron Stakes at Sandown. He will need to improve on those runs but has plenty of scope to do so and could be a danger. Shaman was a good second to Persian King in the French 2000 Guineas and looks classy but connections would’ve wanted rain for him. The vote instead goes for last year’s champion two year old TOO DARN HOT (9/4). John Gosden believes he should never have run in the Dante at York when second. He then came out quickly after and followed up that effort just 9 days later in the Irish 2000 Guineas. He was slightly unfortunate in running that day but wouldn’t have beat Phoenix of Spain anyway as the winner had gone. However, Too Darn Hot is expected to be back to his brilliant best here and if so, would win. He proved himself better than Phoenix of Spain last year and as long as he hasn’t plateaued, can reverse that form from The Curragh.June 18, 2019 at 16:20 #1445784Gut tells me that TDH reveres the from with POS, but at the prices, I’d chance Royal Marine e/w in the hope that he has taken some time to come to hand as a 3yo.
June 18, 2019 at 16:29 #1445786Tdh almost looks like a sprinter
Showed an electric turn of foot to get upsides the winner then folded in the last half a furlong
Must’ve traded low in running
June 18, 2019 at 16:53 #1445789Yeah, all three of his races this season he’s got there and it’s almost as if he doesn’t want to go through with his final challenge..??
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June 18, 2019 at 16:55 #1445790Well done all those who backed the winner. But surely only those with blind faith in Aidan could’ve backed him. Horses are more adaptable in trip than many in the northern hemisphere believe. However, Circus Maximus looked purely a middle distance colt before blinkers were added.
Who did I back? My main bets were… couldn’t quite match the 2, 3 and 4 of the King’s Stand – second and third.
As expected, Phoenix Of Spain couln’t show the same form as in Ireland.
TDH seemed to be intimidated once the winner started coming towards him. They hung badly. Level of form shown this season has been consistent, but consistently a few pounds below his two year old form. I’m afraid the probable conclusion is TDH has not made the progression from two to three needed to run to the same rating/form – ie hasn’t trained on.
Looking as if King Of Comedy may end up the best miler, although expect the Phoenix to get involved when stable is in better form.
Value Is EverythingJune 18, 2019 at 17:12 #1445794Agreed nathan
Looked the winner 2f out in all 3 races but after the initial turn of foot to get into position had nothing extra close home to get the job done
I thought he was gonna win by 2 or 3 lengths at one point today when he cruised into contention
Frankie rode him perfectly but the horse just didnt want it, handing a big group 1 to an average obrein horse
June 18, 2019 at 17:16 #1445797I wonder if the setback before the guineas is playing on the horses mind when asked for his final effort.
if that is possible.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
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