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Nubre on a going day is good enough , at this point the champ chase looks between energumene and Shiskin , out with those two id say Nubre has a strong chance of following them home
Change of tactics as most of us thought wise on TTL today
Much better performance and now a genuine contender for best British horse in the arkle again
Harry Skelton still isn’t a difference maker in the saddle.
Ten rides just one winner at Kempton with also a 2nd and a 3rd place to his name. Longest priced horse was 12/1, so all of them had some sort of chances. The winner (Grey Dawning) at 5/4 was the lowest priced of them all. Not much Harry could do wrong on him, though the horse made numerous mistakes.
What the hell has happened to Allmankind ? , he looks like a change of scenery is required
HDLG, ITV team speculated in a kind of furtive, chuckling manner before the race that today wasn’t the day and there were plans afoot somewhere down the line.
I like the Skeltons well enough, but stopped betting their runners some time ago. Dan always talks a big game about future plans and big race targets etc., but falls short more often than not. They seem to rattle in some very impressive early season winners year after year and then fade from there on. I know they’ve won good handicaps at the festival in the past, but those are becoming fading memories.
Interesting thread.
They get their fair share of percentage of winners but Harry is a bit gung ho for me.
He’s a terrible lad for really booting a horse at a fence when it’s seemingly unnecessary and I’ve also yet to see him make a move on the inside of a horse taking a brave route or squeezing one through a gap. Always seems happier on the outside which undoubtedly gives away ground.
Dan can certainly train them and if he wants to be champion trainer some day I think he needs to start utilising better Jockeys than his brother. Of which there are many!
Well, what they’ve won so far this season with the horses they have is decent. I bet if they had Cheveley Park, the Donnellys, JP et al flinging horses at them they’d win more grade 1s than they have.
They’re very good at places like Market Rasen, Stratford, Southwell, Warwick and Uttoxeter. But once you get to places like Cheltenham, Sandown, Newbury, Aintree or Ascot their strike rate is about 50% lower. Maybe it’s just their horses, but I think there is more behind it. How many decent horses do they have? I mean the ones with multiple wins in 3-4 seasons in a row…..
I don’t bet nearly as many jumpers as I used to, but if there’s a stable that I cannot get my head around it is this one.
I’ve probably backed between 10-20 Skelton evens favourites in my time and none of them ever won.
But I would regularly get beaten by them when I bet on other evens favourites and the Skeltons had the 5/2 second fav.
Really don’t think it was bad luck on my behalf, like others have eluded to they’re definitely a gambling stable and don’t like taking too short of a price.
I am not an admirer of Harry Skelton, as mentioned earlier in the thread. But let’s be realistic: he has a job riding for his brother as long as he wants it. The bond between them is clearly very strong. There is no way Dan Skelton is ever going to tell him his services are no longer required.
Yes Cork, unless Harry gets weight problems and decides to give up riding and to become the assistant trainer or the yard’s bloodstock agent or whatever.
But I can’t see them employing anyone else at the moment.
I was going to say Harry Skelton has ridden better this season – and on balance I think he has. But he was sort of up to his old tricks again in the Challow.
OK, the winner was very good and would almost certainly have won no matter how the race was run – but did Skelton really need to go off so fast? He gave his horse no chance of lasting home.
“but did Skelton really need to go off so fast? He gave his horse no chance of lasting home.”
He does this over and over again
He used to get away with it at Newton abbot in the summer riding a stable switcher running for dan for the first time with 20lb in hand
But you just can’t do that in higher grade races
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