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follow whatever your systems are over the upcoming ‘proper’ NH season, updating TRF from time to time, and compare it with the regulation most winners table
Not sure I know what you’re asking there, Drone?
Value Is EverythingGinger is happy with the Jockeys Championship being decided purely on number of winners as now, Drone. However, when there’s a week of frost in February I could do a comparison with my idea. Not much point yet as the only the current top three have had over 200 rides (what a surprise!) If I had time currently I could apply my formula to seasons prior to 2017/18 and see if there’s a pattern but I’m up to my neck in mid-Victorian Nationals at the mo.
Nothing wrong with summer jumping. When my site is launched in a few years time I may watch it, if I can bear to sit through all the interspersed Flat races! However, the two days at Chepstow in early October is by far the best British action for five months.
Just a thought to while away the long winter months GM
Apologies GT, I was under the misapprehension that somewhere in your lengthy screeds you’d postulated an alternative to the alternative
Of sorts, Drone.
Actually think the Jockey Championship as it stands is a worthwhile competition. However, don’t think it should be seen as a definite measure of ability that some see it as. If wanting a fair measure it would be too complicated for all bar us fanatics. Something based on the Timeform Dashboard, run to form, median and type of race etc. Also taking in to account expectation imo paramount.
https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/guides/new-jockey-and-trainer-dashboard-1972017
Value Is EverythingGoldenMiller34 wrote:
The Skeltons are big dogs playing with puppies who are using their advantage of being a huge operation, soundly backed, to hoover up multiple morsels of money (thus denying the smaller outfits who desperately need some success and glimmer of hope to keep going).==============================================================================
I can’t agree that they’re denying other handlers any vestige of a living, considering the late spring and summer jumping calendar is as plump as ever it has been fixtures-wise and the Skeltons can’t run something in every race.
Put it another way: if the Barfoot-Saunt yard was able to bring to an end a win drought lasting nearly twelve years and well over 200 runners back in the spring, opportunities still abound.
One might as well suggest that Gordon Elliott should be asked to stay away from Perth on the basis that he farms meetings up there at will. And yet, at the most recent fixture at Scone Palace the likes of Maurice Barnes and Lucy Normille still found winning opportunities.
gc
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phil walker wrote:
I’m sure Dan and Harry Skelton are a great partnership, but I find it rather unedifying that they are being applauded for winning a large amount of pathetically weak summer jumps races============================================================
I’ve never quite reconciled the idea that class 4 or 5 handicaps run in the summer are automatically weaker than their winter equivalents, just by virtue of when they take place. There’ll be contests around the south east jumps tracks this winter (and increasingly one thinks of Lingfield, when it isn’t flooded, that is) that will be more gruesome than anything a Cartmel on near-perfect ground can throw up in high summer nowadays.
Either way, Virgilio’s win and Too Many Diamonds’ narrow second at Listed level, plus the class 2 and 3 victories of thirteen other individuals, doesn’t read like a Martin Pipe-esque hoovering up of just the grimmest races imaginable. The summer jumping calendar has never been more blessed with nice prizes (Perth class 2 handicap hurdle this Saturday and Southwell class 2 handicap chase a day later, anybody?), and the Skeltons have merely proven a bit more perspicacious than most in targetting and bagging them. Good on ’em.
gc
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