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  • #20927
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    Taking the mick in a three runner race with a 66/1 rag as the only other alternative?

    #389959
    thehorsesmouththehorsesmouth
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    What way would you price them Racing Daily :?:

    #389960
    thehorsesmouththehorsesmouth
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    Serious performance from Sizing.

    #389963
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    What way would you price them Racing Daily :?:

    9/10, Evs, 66
    Its only common courtesy to give the punter at least a sporting chance. The book is still intact at those odds, just not quite as high a margin.
    Agree, Sizing looks good, Hurricane Fly is a monster too.

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    104% isn’t too bad in a three horse race. Albeit the outsider wouldn’t have much of a mark up, but near 2% addition for each near 50% chance is fair enough imo, even with exposed types.

    value is everything
    #389997
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    Yeah I agree, don’t see the issue. Get on Betfair if you’re not happy about it.

    #390016
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    Yeah I agree, don’t see the issue. Get on Betfair if you’re not happy about it.

    I never said I wasn’t happy about it, just saying it is a bit mean spirited to stick both in at odds-on. It looks well stingy.

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    You constantly get 10/11 or 19/20 about each of the 2 teams in NFL games on the point spread. The house has to have an advantage. BSPs were 1.92 on SE and 2.06 on BZ I believe.

    #390183
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    Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.

    #390186
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    If both horses were returned with a sp of odds on jt favs, unnamed fav backers would have a case for a full refund as there was/is an unwritten rule that if you cannot win you cannot lose.

    This occurred many years ago and led to refunds, I would imagine bookmakers now ensure there is a differential in prices even if both are odds on to avoid this happening.

    #390187
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    Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.

    There is a big difference as there was still betting duty to be paid then, off course at least.

    #390200
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    Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.

    We had a lovely example at Wolver last February:

    Sim Sala Bam 10/11
    Black Pond 10/11
    Arizona High 11/2

    Oh, and that show doesn’t even include the winner!

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    That race at Wolves is far worse than the race on Sunday.

    10/11, 10/11, 11/2, 50/1, 50/1, 66/1 is 125.7% in a 6 horse race. Which is a mark up of on average

    4.28%

    per runner. (Obviously with three starting at 50/1 or more, most of the mark up was put on the shorter priced horses, as mark ups always are).

    Where as Sunday’s SP’s in Sizing Europe’s race add up to 104.1% 9/10, Evens and 66/1 between 3 an average of only

    1.37%

    per runner.

    Even at the time this thread was opened it was only 106.5%, an average of

    2.16%

    per runner. Two odds-on shots in the same race might seem to some punters poor value, but it is not neccesarily the case.

    However, it is not a good comparison because the Wolves race was a maiden, with unexposed horses. Where as the ability of all three horses at Punchestown was known (exposed). Bookmakers will always add more of a mark up to an unexposed sort.

    value is everything
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    And who said Wolverhampton wasn’t glorified Greyhound racing with monkeys on sticks instead of a mechanical hare?

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