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- February 5, 2012 at 14:54 #20927
Taking the mick in a three runner race with a 66/1 rag as the only other alternative?
February 5, 2012 at 14:56 #389959What way would you price them Racing Daily
February 5, 2012 at 15:00 #389960Serious performance from Sizing.
February 5, 2012 at 15:03 #389963What way would you price them Racing Daily

9/10, Evs, 66
Its only common courtesy to give the punter at least a sporting chance. The book is still intact at those odds, just not quite as high a margin.
Agree, Sizing looks good, Hurricane Fly is a monster too.February 5, 2012 at 20:32 #389993104% isn’t too bad in a three horse race. Albeit the outsider wouldn’t have much of a mark up, but near 2% addition for each near 50% chance is fair enough imo, even with exposed types.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 5, 2012 at 20:45 #389997Yeah I agree, don’t see the issue. Get on Betfair if you’re not happy about it.
February 5, 2012 at 23:56 #390016Yeah I agree, don’t see the issue. Get on Betfair if you’re not happy about it.
I never said I wasn’t happy about it, just saying it is a bit mean spirited to stick both in at odds-on. It looks well stingy.
February 6, 2012 at 01:19 #390025You constantly get 10/11 or 19/20 about each of the 2 teams in NFL games on the point spread. The house has to have an advantage. BSPs were 1.92 on SE and 2.06 on BZ I believe.
February 7, 2012 at 13:11 #390183Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.
February 7, 2012 at 13:31 #390186If both horses were returned with a sp of odds on jt favs, unnamed fav backers would have a case for a full refund as there was/is an unwritten rule that if you cannot win you cannot lose.
This occurred many years ago and led to refunds, I would imagine bookmakers now ensure there is a differential in prices even if both are odds on to avoid this happening.
February 7, 2012 at 13:34 #390187Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.
There is a big difference as there was still betting duty to be paid then, off course at least.
February 7, 2012 at 14:42 #390200Only other time i recall this was Charlie Hall Chase around 1985 Wayward Lad v Burrough Hill Lad and AN Other 10/11 the pair i think.
We had a lovely example at Wolver last February:
Sim Sala Bam 10/11
Black Pond 10/11
Arizona High 11/2Oh, and that show doesn’t even include the winner!
February 7, 2012 at 17:41 #390221That race at Wolves is far worse than the race on Sunday.
10/11, 10/11, 11/2, 50/1, 50/1, 66/1 is 125.7% in a 6 horse race. Which is a mark up of on average
4.28%
per runner. (Obviously with three starting at 50/1 or more, most of the mark up was put on the shorter priced horses, as mark ups always are).
Where as Sunday’s SP’s in Sizing Europe’s race add up to 104.1% 9/10, Evens and 66/1 between 3 an average of only
1.37%
per runner.
Even at the time this thread was opened it was only 106.5%, an average of
2.16%
per runner. Two odds-on shots in the same race might seem to some punters poor value, but it is not neccesarily the case.
However, it is not a good comparison because the Wolves race was a maiden, with unexposed horses. Where as the ability of all three horses at Punchestown was known (exposed). Bookmakers will always add more of a mark up to an unexposed sort.
Value Is EverythingFebruary 7, 2012 at 17:54 #390226And who said Wolverhampton wasn’t glorified Greyhound racing with monkeys on sticks instead of a mechanical hare?
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