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Both Mummy and Daddy got a mile so he should but will it matter? is the big question.Thought that was a massive performance for a number of reasons:
The way he galloped suggested a mile would be no problem and soft ground delightful. This horse didn’t come out of 2nd gear, and though the others were tiring may be a reason for him to be so visually impressive. I think the form is rock solid with Strong Suit running a decent race (one that would have won many renewals IMHO).
The rapidity with which he put that field to the sword is was more impressive than when Frankel did his latest demoltion at Ascot.
This is making the 2000 Guineas a genuinely mouth-watering clash next year as there is also depth with some useful Irish contenders.
At this point – it looks a bit Celtic Swing (Dream Ahead) V Pennekamp (Frankel) for me.
However, next year I expect Dream Ahead to out-battle Frankel in the last furlong of the first classic of the season. Depending on how long Frankel can stick with him.
And remember, Celtic swing didn’t get his soft ground that day when beaten a neck by Pennekamp.
At 7/1 still available – an excellent opportunity in relation to 9/4 Frankel. I am finally gonna have a decent ante-post bet! (£20 at least)
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Both Mummy and Daddy got a mile so he should but will it matter? is the big question.I hope you are not talking about Dream Ahead. Both dam and grand-dam never raced beyond six furlongs and the sire was best at distances short of a mile.
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Diktat stayed a stiff seven furlongs pretty well, stilvi, and has already sired winners at nine and ten furlongs (albeit some out of more stoutly bred mares).
Pedigree only tells half the story though, if that. On today’s evidence, given time to grow in to his enormous frame, Dream Ahead will stay a mile without any trouble whatsoever. He might need it soft (or at the very least no faster than good), but he’ll stay.
Diktat stayed a stiff seven furlongs pretty well, stilvi, and has already sired winners at nine and ten furlongs (albeit some out of more stoutly bred mares).
Pedigree only tells half the story though, if that. On today’s evidence, given time to grow in to his enormous frame, Dream Ahead will stay a mile without any trouble whatsoever. He might need it soft (or at the very least no faster than good), but he’ll stay.
I would say there is a huge doubt, the Racing Post analysis raises the same concerns about stamina and taking the form at face value – they also suggest there is a chance the horse might be sold. For me a very poor ante-post proposition.
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Does travel well though Stilvi which would help in an ordinary Guineas but this coming renewal could hardly be called that.
Big plus though is he got 6f really well and won going away on testing ground. We know he goes on good ground so he’d get 7f standing on his head.
I would have thought he’ll get the mile ok but the big question is wil he get it in such elite company in a fast run race? No doubt if it’s a borderline case like Delegator’s was he’ll most likley run a similar race to he did.
On the bright side Frankel and Saamidd will step up in trip if all goes well which could still see Dream Ahead picking up a Group 1 over amile long the way.
Who knows what next seadon can bring but unlike Sea the Stars Frankel looks to have some really top class contenders to deal with and who knows what else will pop up.
To think Canford Cliffs and possibly Workforce if he win the Arc will stay in training it could end up a flat season to remember.
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I like Dream Ahead a lot and have backed him all three starts. That said I doubt he’s a Guineas horse. As most have said he’s definitely a give in the ground type and I doubt he’ll stay a mile. Not even sure what stable he’ll be in for 2011. Not a good ante post prospect for mine. His time yesterday was .2 slower than the filly as well. That doesn’t impress me.
I’ve read plenty of opinions on here about times and don’t need to hear them again. In this case you couldn’t possibly change my mind.
From today’s Sporting Life-
"Timeform believe that Dream Ahead, a 7-2 chance on Betfair, goes into Saturday’s mouthwatering Dewhurst having shown slightly better form than 8-13 favourite Frankel.The Halifax-based firm describe any horse running to a mark of 130 or better as "top class" – and Dream Ahead ran to 130 when winning the Middle Park."
Frankel’s win at Ascot was rated 129.
What about that. Does it make sense?
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