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[cormack15]

Well corrected Wit.

Peaty – apart from the pay rise issue I am in agreement with all the other policy measures you’ve highlighted, and I’m reasonably sure most right thinking Scots are also in favour of these progressive moves.

[rory]

Don’t worry Peaty Sandy ~ you’ll be dead soon and can chain smoke with Jesus to your heart’s content while driving pesky cyclists off the celestial roads for all eternity. Isn’t that a happy thought for your dotage?

[stevedvg]

banned smoking in pubs for **** s sake

I thought that was the one thing they’ve done so far that’s been worthwhile.

It took a good few years and £500+ million for it to happen, so it wasn’t quite value for money.

However, look at the way the UK government is dragging its heels on this.

Anyway….

Wit

Firstly, where are these socialists in Westminster? Surely, you’re not including Prescott and Blair among them?

Looking at these links (apart from the nonsense from CFER), it seems to me that the idea is part of a larger plan to create direct links from regions in EU countries to the EU.

It’s not just about England. It’s about "cutting out the middleman" in assigning regional funding.

Now, if we’re to have an EU, doesn’t that make sense? And it’s nothing new.

Southern Italy got special funding for a long time (and perhaps still does) because it was poor. However, N Italy is quite affluent and didn’t get such funding.

If there is to be an EU which is funded by its member states and uses part these funds to create social and economic regeneration in the poorer regions in these countries, then it makes sense to me that this is done directly and with minimal involvement of national governments.        

If you’re worried about the EU, I’d suggest you relax. The EU was a fad and, like all fads will come to an end.

This notion of us all being europeans, equal in the eyes of the EU was suspended temporarily when most of the western countries withheld full employment rights from those in the Eastern countries.

In a few years, they’ll either have to grant full employment rights or completely redesign the EUs operating principles.

Now, there’s no chance whatsoever that they’re going to do the former.

So, it’s the end of the EU as one big happy family.

And that’s assuming the Italians (or any other country)don’t quit the Euro before then. In whcih case, the whole thing might fall apart even sooner.

So, I’d sleep easy, knowing that "English values" will stay safe.

However, given that English values today seem to revolve around alcoholism, junk food/obesity, lowbrow reality TV and teenage pregnancy, maybe England would have been better of without them.

Steve       <br>

[dave jay]

The Scottish Parliament is a joke because …

• <br>
• obssessed with political correctness<br>
• cost at least 10 times more than it should have done to build<br>
• blindly follow the NuLabour line<br>
• have done nothing for Scotland<br>
• is an on-going waste of money<br>

<br>I could paste up a load of examples, but that would make me look as petty, small minded and controlling as they want to be.<br>:cool:  

[dave jay]

Today’s initiative from the Scottish Parliament from top Hog Joc McConnell .. he is going to stamp out sectarianism by twinning Catholic schools with non-denomonational schools on various activities in an attempt to ‘stamp out secarianism’.

<br>That’s what wrong with Scotland, fannies like that !!

[cormack15]

Dave – Don’t you think initiatives like that are helpful, as part of a more general process, in addressing the long term culture of sectarianism which exists in the West of Scotland?

[dave jay]

No Corm I do not. I believe they are meaningless self aggrandising gestures made by folk who want create the illusion that they are doing something about a problem that doesn’t really affect anybody.

I moved to the West of Scotland 17 years ago and I can only talk from my own experience. Having come into contact with bigots from both sides of the divide. People looking in from the outside seem to think it’s a bigger problem than we who live here do. For example, if I stood up, right now, in this office and started singing ‘The Sash’ everyone sat about me would start laughing and calling me names .. This is what is known as ‘banter’. Yet in certain circles, some people would want me prosecuted for spreading religious hatred and being politically incorrect, when if the truth was to be told, the only folk who would be offended would be bigots.

More importantly when Prestwick Circuits in Irvine made 264 people redundant last month and moved production to China. The government’s response to this ?? Nothing !!

You have to bear in mind Corm that the Orange Order wants all Catholic schools closed and Catholics to be forced to attend non-denominational schools. There are plenty of Proddies at the school where the missus works and they seem to do okay. No crucifixions or anything.

Peaty that’s simply not true .. you are joking of course, but you are obviously bigoted against people who live in Glasgow .. the Scottish parliament is passing a new law next year where everyone who doesn’t live in Glasgow will not be allowed to wash between New Year and Easter, kids on the East Coast will be forcibly infected with head lice and kids in the Highlands will do an exchange with kids in Paisley, just to show them that it doesn’t have to be dark to be dangerous.

There will be a new Community Harmonization Tsar appointed, £120K a year, free meals, free housing near the parliament, no experience required, no work involved must be a member of the Labour Party. <br>

[stevedvg]

Surely the correct suffix is "…by the way, big man, nae danger"?

And the obligatory prefix ("see me") is also missing from the sentence.

So, it should be;

"See me, ahm no Juan o thaym, by the way, big man, nae danger"

DJ

I saw on the news the other week a bunch of arseholes participating in this "banter" in George Sq.

And it looked like the banter would have been even more "frivolous" had there not been a very large police presence.

And, frankly, I’m not surprised as, a few years ago, I made the mistake of going to Glasgow one Saturday in mid-summer and it was the day of the big "walk".

I remember seeing a guy with banter running down over his face from a head wound.<br> <br>There’s one way to stop the flow of sectariansim in Scotland and that’s to ban the 2 organisations who are the congregating point for this hatred.

However, the politicians don’t have the stones to do this.

Steve

[dave jay]

Thick folk are always going to be fighting and causing trouble Steve, it’s in their nature. It’s a defining moment for a gang of dumplings to knock the hell out of someone for no apparent reason, other than they wanted to and then get away with it.

I remember going to see Hull City play Sc**t
horpe, years ago, and saw a lad have his head laid open with a lump of wood, religion not involved.

In England Muslims should be sent to churches and Christians should be sent to Mosques and ties forged across the two communities.

There are far more important things to sort out in Scotland like unemployment and poverty. This charade is a smoke screen for idle politicians to do nothing and take no responsibility for the policies that have basically priced the Scottish labour market out of the game globally. We live in a country where there are more people taking money out of the system than are paying money into it and unless these fools do something about this now there will be an awful mess to clean up in the future.

[Purwell]

I’m inclined to believe there’s an awful mess to clean up now! I blame Maggie Thatcher!

I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways

[cormack15]

Not only do we have our own parliament we now have one of us running England, Wales and Northern Ireland too!!

[Friggo]

As all us Scots knew all along, Corm, we are indeed the dogs boll*cks! :biggrin:

All we need now is Murray to win Wimbledon and we’re made! Let’s not hold our breath though.

[betlarge]

All we need now is Murray to win Wimbledon and we’re made! Let’s not hold our breath though.

<br>I see news travels fast up there.

Mike

[Friggo]

:biggrin:

I of course meant in his career. However, I’m still not holding my breath for old sicknote.

[insomniac]

It’s peeing down here now. Looks like we’ve adopted your weather too!

[seabird]

I’ll have you know we have our own parliament, well Assembly actually, and good ole Rhodri Morgan and I don’t think you can claim him as being Scottish………doubt that you’d want to really!!!;)

Colin

[sberry]

the romans didn’t build a wall and we didn’t chop up braveheart for it to end up like this – and now the royal train is to be run by germans – my grandad will be turning in his grave :o

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