- This topic has 65 replies, 27 voices, and was last updated 10 years, 10 months ago by
.
-
Posts
-
Opposing horses on the way out is one of my personal favourite strategies BUT you’d be a brave man to say HF is ‘on the way out’.
I can see where Tom Segal is coming from, the horse perhaps is not the traveller he once was, but both Our Conor and Jezki have plenty still to prove, big gulf between a Triumph and a top class all-aged Grade 1 championship race, especially when faced with the horse who is possibly, next to Istabraq, the best we’ve seen in that sphere in the last twenty years or so.
Well, I read that one all wrong.
The young pretender(s) aren’t quite ready to claim the champion’s crown yet. Our Conor and Jezki had every chance.
Hats off to Hurricane Fly – it was a tremendous display from him. Then again, when you have the best jump jockey in the world on board, I suppose it does your cause no harm at all.
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
I’ve never quite ‘got’ Hurricane Fly from watching those Irish Mickey Mouse races that he wins but, today, listening to it on the radio it finally became clear [especially once it dawned on me that Captain Cee Bee was there to help Jezki; I was a bit slow about that1]. Can’t wait to see a replay of it.
Mickey Mouse?
Please elaborate, Solwhit didn’t look too Walt Disney at Chelt / Aintree.I’ve only ever seen the totaly boring races that HF has won PC and have never found any excitement in watching any of them
. Give me a break; I’m trying to praise the horse here and am admitting I’ve been wrong and blinkered in my opinion of him
Not 100% satisfactory as (the annoyingly mispronounced) Jezki did get trapped behind his pacemaker and lose momentum. Whilst he wasn’t gaining once he got his clear run, a microscopically slight "what if" lingers.
It remains to be seen how truly effective Jezki will be coming up the Cheltenham hill though. A hill that Our Conor truly destroyed in March.
Today’s race in isolation, Hurricane Fly was the best horse by some stretch. I wouldn’t be so quick to view the race as a Cheltenham trial.
(the annoyingly mispronounced) Jezki
Jet-Ski?
Didn’t make a jot of difference did it? Walsh can be mis-leading a-la Paul Carberry, but he didn’t seem to get serious.
Happy enough with Jetzi’s effort puts the 2 English trained horse’s close enough on a line through him. Our Conor’s bubble went pop there. Albeit it was his first proper run of the season with his flat run being in Oct and could of done with a proper hurdle prep before here, one would of thought. He pulled quite hard in the early stages aswell so wouldn’t totally write him off yet. Happy with the 5/4 on Hurricane although wish I had been brave enough to take the 9’s on offer from William Hill about today and the Festival just to cover my bet(s) on MTOY’s.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
I’ve never quite ‘got’ Hurricane Fly
I must admit to being afflicted with the same condition. Like when I’m telling my grandchildren about the top two mile hurdlers from my youth, I will always put Istabraq above Hurricane Fly.
How do you compare the two?
Hills got filled in this morning. 6/4 max £400 per customer.
To my untrained / uneducated eye Our Conor looked huge. Is he what I hear people with more knowledge than me refer to as a ‘Typical Chasing Type’, even though he is by Jeremy?
Just watched the replay. Not sure how AP managed to get boxed in with so few runners but Ruby rode HF with supreme confidence. Interesting to see which horse AP rides at Cheltenham, although I assume it will be MTOY’s. Can’t wait for March [Tuesday always the best day imo].
Yeah, he(Our Conor) looked a monster in stature in comparison to the Fly and for a 4 year you would think he could get bigger.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
(the annoyingly mispronounced) Jezki
Jet-Ski?
Didn’t make a jot of difference did it? Walsh can be mis-leading a-la Paul Carberry, but he didn’t seem to get serious.
Jezki is a Slovene term which is pronounced Ye(‘soft’ sh – as in treasure) ki…
Yeshki
I do wonder how he’s pronounced by whomever named him..
Don’t know if you were watching the build-up on ATR but the Betfair fella kept calling him Jet-Ski.
Had an image in my head on AP winding back the throttle with a Hawaian Shirt on down the home straight, mowing everyone out of the way.
Hills got filled in this morning. 6/4 max £400 per customer.
To my untrained / uneducated eye Our Conor looked huge. Is he what I hear people with more knowledge than me refer to as a ‘Typical Chasing Type’, even though he is by Jeremy?
I haven’t seen OC in the flesh, but on TV he looks to me to be strongly built but quite compact – short-coupled (think wheelbase) when compared with the other horses – something which would, to my mind, help his hurdling. MTOY, in comparison has a considerably longer ‘wheelbase’, and that, I believe, is one of the reasons he’s not a natural at hurdling.
Of the race itself, the key thing for me was that after so much wet-behind-the-ears criticism of young Mullins, AP found that part of him very dry! Fair play to the youngster for holding AP in. Given the lost momentum and the switch, Jezki must go down as unlucky.
I was sorry to see OC beaten. No doubt he can be got fitter, but to merit a single figure price for the CH I think he had to go very very close to winning today.
As for the Fly, what can you say? Unbeaten at Leopardstown, 18 Grade 1s and sees off the youngsters without too much trouble. Co favs now for the big one. Had OC hacked up today, the CH would have been over imo. It’s all to play for again.
Even if it’s the ‘hard z’, it would still definitely be a Y rather than a J sound at the front…
Don’t know if you were watching the build-up on ATR but the Betfair fella kept calling him Jet-Ski.
Had an image in my head on AP winding back the throttle with a Hawaian Shirt on down the home straight, mowing everyone out of the way.
Please, somebody with photoshop, make this happen!
Difficult to compare Istabraq and HF. Istabraq was beatable, for a start and certainly took one bad fall in his career [maybe more? I’m thinking of when a certain Moscow Flyer beat him]. I’ve always thought that you learn more about horses from seeing them being beat than when they win all the time. I was there when Istabraq won his third CH H [went specially to see him] and when HF won[felt quite emotional seeing that]. But I never feel excited when HF runs; don’t get the ‘first thing in the morning you wake up and think that so and so is running and can’t wait for the race [and watch it from behind the sofa]’. HF’s hurdling is unreal; has he ever made a midtake at a fence?
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.