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Just taken my total on Alpha Des Obeaux to win this up to £229. Also got a £10 double with Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup, 12s + 3s.
I just cannot see him getting beaten by anything. He’s by far my biggest back for the Festival, and should be more like 3/1 than 12s. I think I shall go in for a little more tonight, as I’m pre-empting a win for him tomorrow in Ireland.
Just had another £27.30 on Alpha Des Obeaux at 11/1. Just a ridiculous price. May have a little more on.
Just had another £27.30 on Alpha Des Obeaux at 11/1. Just a ridiculous price. May have a little more on.
One of my main bets for Cheltenham as it stands at the moment.
Backed Coney Island @ 16’s for the JLT today but dying to back ADO @4’s for tomorrows race as well.
Just taken my total on Alpha Des Obeaux to win this up to £229. Also got a £10 double with Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup, 12s + 3s.
I just cannot see him getting beaten by anything. He’s by far my biggest back for the Festival, and should be more like 3/1 than 12s. I think I shall go in for a little more tonight, as I’m pre-empting a win for him tomorrow in Ireland.
Just had another £27.30 on Alpha Des Obeaux at 11/1. Just a ridiculous price. May have a little more on.
Another £50. Doubled up with Chelsea to win the league, for a combined 17.5/1. Betfair Sportsbook won’t let me have anymore on so I lost out on 2 points :(
So that’s just over £300 on Alpha des O. £257 at between 10 + 12/1, £50 at 17.5/1. Easy this game. Just back 2/1 shots at 10-17.5/1 and wait for them to win.
Just had another £27.30 on Alpha Des Obeaux at 11/1. Just a ridiculous price. May have a little more on.
One of my main bets for Cheltenham as it stands at the moment.
Backed Coney Island @ 16’s for the JLT today but dying to back ADO @4’s for tomorrows race as well.
Same with me .
My main bet of the festival and has been for about 6 weeks.
Bet365 appear to just have completely got his price wrong.
How I could get 12/1 in November and 11/1 in December is borderline theft.
Bet365 appear to just have completely got his price wrong.
How I could get 12/1 in November and 11/1 in December is borderline theft.
Precisely. He’s a 22L Stayers’ Hurdle winner if you remove arguably the biggest freak racehorse there’s ever been, who’s also 5/4f for the Gold Cup as a novice. RPR170 that day, trained by an absolute master of novice chasers in Mouse Morris and he’s double figures. That is absolutely insane. Any bookmaker who has him priced higher than 3/1 (which is all of them) deserve to get their arses handed to them.
If anybody thinks that anything (apart from Thistlecrack) will beat him, they’re quite frankly wrong. That’s not opinion, that’s fact. They are wrong. Alpha Des Obeaux will win. Stone cold certainty. Only danger to him are the 15-odd fences.
Honestly, we should just convert this thread into ‘Who’s going to win the most when Alpha Des Obeaux wins?’
Must just be me but I don’t rate alpha des obeaux that highly over fences at all. Unless he really is keeping plenty up his sleeve then I’d be suprised if he was up to WINNiNG the rsa.
Must admit I did have a saver on him at 9s with some winnings earlier in the season.
I’d rather read the form into what he’s beat rather than what he’s been beaten by.
His best piece of form for me is the aintree run over hurdles where he fell.
In his last run Willies horse made a bad mistake down the back. And previously to that he hasn’t been highly tried at all.I’d be suprised if he beat coney island today. And the bellshill/ coney island form is looking solid over 3 miles on decent ground. On soft ground I’d still give atoi phil a squeak
Gangster has always had the frame of a chaser and deffinately wants 3 miles . And one whos gone under the radar Iv been quietly impressed with is a genie inabottle who’s progressed with each rum for me.
Will be interesting to see how jp splits his horses. With buveur dair/ le prezien (jlt) blue et rouge and coney island (rsa).Must just be me but I don’t rate alpha des obeaux that highly over fences at all. Unless he really is keeping plenty up his sleeve then I’d be suprised if he was up to WINNiNG the rsa.
Don’t worry, all will become clear to you in March. I’d recommend having a lot more savers on him.
Bellshill might just finish the RSA by the time the Grand National starts. Not to mention he’s had 2 runs at Cheltenham; 10th and 13th.
Bellshill.
2 runs at cheltenham both over 2 miles.
A completely different animal up in trip rhe only thing at all a negative about bellshill is he’s not an easy ride in regards to idling infront. But you don’t need to tell ruby what to doLook at thistlecrack ‘s form over 2 miles.
Do you expect ADO to win today?Bellshill.
2 runs at cheltenham both over 2 miles.
A completely different animal up in trip rhe only thing at all a negative about bellshill is he’s not an easy ride in regards to idling infront. But you don’t need to tell ruby what to doLook at thistlecrack ‘s form over 2 miles.
Do you expect ADO to win today?Well tbh you use that as an excuse, but that’s another thing. If he’s so good, why isn’t he running in his preferred races? Why did he run in the Supreme?
But also…plenty of future 3-mile chasers have run in the Cheltenham bumper/Supreme Novices’ before, and they fared a hell of a lot better than 10th/13th. There’s simply no encouragement you could garner from either of his runs. In the bumper he was beaten by 100/1 Bay of Freedom (just ran over 3 miles the other day) + 100/1 Theo’s Charm (finished 2nd over 2m 7f the other week).
Also…Bellshill away from Cheltenham: 2122111132111. Bellshill at Cheltenham: 00.
Bellshill over 2m/2m 1f away from Cheltenham: 12211. Bellshill over 2m/2m 1f at Cheltenham: 00.
Whichever way you spin it, that is a worry.
I think ADO has a good chance today, but it’s all about March. First Lieutenant was beaten 6L by Last Instalment in this, then went on to lose 2L to Bob’s Worth (future Gold Cup winner) in the RSA. You can bet your life on ADO improving at least a stone from whatever he does today. I’ve backed ADO at 4s to win a bit, but I’ve backed Coney Island to win my stake back and done a RFC. Our Duke is the slight unexposed concern, the others are simply not good enough. I wouldn’t at all mind Coney Island 1st ADO 2nd as it’d keep ADO’s price longer and I can pile more on at a double-figure price (and I’d make a profit on the race today
)I’ve no doubt Coney Island is good, but I doubt he’s top class like ADO is.
I’m in full agreement with you Zark, if I remember correctly Mouse said that ADO was the best horse he’d trained (War of Attrition included) around Cheltenham last year. On the back of that comment along with Tizzards regarding Thistlecrack going Gold Cup I snapped them both up at 10’s and 8’s respectively in a double only to small stakes but still onto win 700+. ADO reminds me very much of First Lieutenant’s campaign as a novice. Not entirely sure he’ll win tomorrow but come March he’ll come in first out of anything in this field
I haven’t seen the race, but I’m taking a leap of faith that he’s not injured. Had another £30 at 19.5.
Well he was just totally outclassed zarkava. Wasn’t able to keep with them. In truth we are talking about a 152 rated hurdler who rarely wins and who just happened to pick up the pieces in one of the worst world hurdles ever.
Seemed to be travelling well until a sight mistake 4/5/6 out (not quite sure which one), then lost ground quickly before being pulled up after the next again quickly. Hopefully nothing too wrong but have a feeling something went wrong with him.
Seemed to be travelling well until a sight mistake 4/5/6 out (not quite sure which one), then lost ground quickly before being pulled up after the next again quickly. Hopefully nothing too wrong but have a feeling something went wrong with him.
If he stopped quickly, obviously something was wrong. Hopefully not serious.
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