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  • #276624
    Avatar photoCheltenhamSpecialist
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    Don’t give up on Mikael, Wille Mullins page in the Racing Post indicate he is over his setbacks and is back in strong work and will have every chance of racing at Cheltenham

    They’ve be crazy to have his chase debut in The RSA. He’s potentially far to good to risk that, it’s bound to end in tears, either that or Arkle’s rating will look in danger. :D

    Anyone know how much expereince the least experienced winner of the race has had

    #276631
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    We can delete Telenor (If he’s even got an entry?)and Uimhiraceathair from the short list of RSA contenders

    #276633
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    I Wouldn’t completely rule out the Mullins Horse after that.

    I say that will do him a fair bit of good a good scrap. Still has bundles to find with the leaders but 2/2 over fences

    #276637
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    I thought it was a pretty fair run. Wouldn’t write him off at all.

    #276646
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    I thought it was a pretty fair run. Wouldn’t write him off at all.

    Cormack. I can’t see what else I can do, he’s just dead heated with Telener

    Now he’s got top beat Punchestowns, Weird Al, Diamond Harry, Pandorama Et al

    even with the most rose coloured spectacles that some ask

    #276668
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    I know what you’re saying but I like dthe way he crept into it, wasn’t given too hard a time and you’d assume he will progress again before Cheltenham. Not saying he’ll win it but I didn’t think it was a bad trial is all.

    #276693
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    Long Run just continues to impress and is the one to beat in the RSA for me. I hope he goes for the Arkle as although I am all over Sizing Europe I can see Long Run being beaten in that race. I am similarly committed to Pandorama but think Meade’s horse and everything else will struggle to beat Long Run. 5/1 is very fair.
    Of the other contenders
    Punchestowns is far too short and has a better stablemate…more of a glider than grinder…not his race.
    Pandorama is still under rated in England and will stretch and stretch them, I think a far more aggressive ride will be in evidence in March and I believe he has been ridden to conserve his energy for this (whilst still winning) this season…should get the sort of ride Looks Like Trouble got in his year.
    Weapons Amnesty had his chance at Christmas and his festival victory last year, though commendable, was against a different sort of beast than he will face this time.
    Diamond Harry doesn’t worry me at all and I think a succession of clumsy mistakes will lead to a ‘pulled up’
    There have been numerous renewals of the RSA that Wierd Al could have won…but this, unfortunately for him, isn’t one of them.
    Should be a classic…if Long Run gets round ok…and I think he will then he can defeat a gallant Pandorama…the pair well clear.

    There you go…that should offend everyone who hasn’t done the Long Run/Pandorama forecast.

    #276695
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    Pandorama is still under rated in England and will stretch and stretch them, I think a far more aggressive ride will be in evidence in March

    That’s just not Paul Carberry’s style

    #276697
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    Diamond Harry doesn’t worry me at all and I think a succession of clumsy mistakes will lead to a ‘pulled up’

    That’s one out of the left field, you are the first to suggest there’s anything wrong with Harry’s jumping. What have you seen the rest of us have missed

    #276703
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    I think Harry makes a very poor (and individual)shape over a fence, CS. I have been really unimpressed in small fields since he switched. His agility in the Ballymore last year would hardly have you brimming with confidence and that is the nearest evidence to the test he will face next month. He sort of reminds me of an articulated lorry…. lengthy, full of power on a flat, straight road but not the vehicle you would choose to navigate other traffic on an undulating surface.
    Having said that the rising and falling track is the one doubt I have about Long Run.

    #276713
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    Pandorama is still under rated in England and will stretch and stretch them, I think a far more aggressive ride will be in evidence in March

    That’s just not Paul Carberry’s style

    Interesting CS, do you mean that you don’t think Paul is capable of giving him an aggressive ride?
    Or that he wouldn’t do that no matter if he was told to?
    Or do you think he doesn’t need an aggressive ride?

    Sorry, thats a lot of questions.

    #276722
    Roseblossom
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    I think Harry makes a very poor (and individual)shape over a fence, CS. I have been really unimpressed in small fields since he switched. His agility in the Ballymore last year would hardly have you brimming with confidence and that is the nearest evidence to the test he will face next month. He sort of reminds me of an articulated lorry…. lengthy, full of power on a flat, straight road but not the vehicle you would choose to navigate other traffic on an undulating surface.
    Having said that the rising and falling track is the one doubt I have about Long Run.

    That’s a very good description of him!

    It doesn’t encourage me when the trainer says things like the smaller the field the better, and then you see him jumping out to the right like he was. I can see him getting into all sorts of trouble at Cheltenham (probably when Long Run blunders into him :roll: )

    #276723
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    Pandorama is still under rated in England and will stretch and stretch them, I think a far more aggressive ride will be in evidence in March

    That’s just not Paul Carberry’s style

    Interesting CS, do you mean that you don’t think Paul is capable of giving him an aggressive ride?
    Or that he wouldn’t do that no matter if he was told to?
    Or do you think he doesn’t need an aggressive ride?

    Sorry, thats a lot of questions.

    Paul is a fine jockey from the front. They’ve ridden him a bit more conservatively so far over fences but I expect he’ll be handy enough at Cheltenham. No point in getting in a speed dual with Punchestowns that he won’t win. I can see him in front at the top of the hill trying to gallop the finish out of the speedier French breds.

    #276733
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    I know Pricewise made the mistake of tipping it up but surely 50/1 for Mullin’s horse after today’s defeat would not look generous.

    #276784
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    Pandorama is still under rated in England and will stretch and stretch them, I think a far more aggressive ride will be in evidence in March

    That’s just not Paul Carberry’s style

    Interesting CS, do you mean that you don’t think Paul is capable of giving him an aggressive ride?

    C’mon I’m a big fan of the whole family, Paul’s a very talented jockey but all the (male) Carberry’s Tommy too look far more comfortable coming fairly late from off the pace, only Nina seems equally happy on a front runner. Paul is the master at arriving 50 yards out, most of the time :D Ignoring Harcibald in The CH

    Or that he wouldn’t do that no matter if he was told to?

    I don’t think Paul is the best at doing what he’s told, on the right horse though he could pass anything but a pub

    Or do you think he doesn’t need an aggressive ride?

    I think Pandoarama is the RSA horse most suited by a test of stamina, I’d want to see him ridden Denman 2008 style. Sad to hear Paul’s injured, but he should be back in time, get well soon , but I feel the Pandorama’s chances would be improved if Nina got the mount

    Sorry, thats a lot of questions.

    #276788
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    I think Harry makes a very poor (and individual)shape over a fence, CS. I have been really unimpressed in small fields since he switched. His agility in the Ballymore last year would hardly have you brimming with confidence and that is the nearest evidence to the test he will face next month. He sort of reminds me of an articulated lorry…. lengthy, full of power on a flat, straight road but not the vehicle you would choose to navigate other traffic on an undulating surface.
    Having said that the rising and falling track is the one doubt I have about Long Run.

    That’s a very good description of him!

    It doesn’t encourage me when the trainer says things like the smaller the field the better,

    That is very strange, I’ve always felt exactly the oppopsite, I’ve followed his entire career and I’ve always felt happier and more confident in a larger field. i.e The brush hurdle at Haydock… the largest field he’s run in and by far his most impressive preformance IMO

    and then you see him jumping out to the right like he was. I can see him getting into all sorts of trouble at Cheltenham (probably when Long Run blunders into him :roll: )

    #276795
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    Quick qeustion folks, When would the adjusted official rating be published for Diamond, Bensalem and Inchidaly after Saturdays race?

    Alan King has said about entering Bensalem in the William hill, a race he won in the past with novice Fork Lightning. Theres a big difference though, Fork lightning won off 136 and carried 10 1/2 stone whereas surely Bensalem will be 150 plus and carring 11 stone and more against seasoned handicappers.

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