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The Rich Ricci 2018 Festival form:
C A T A S T R O P H I C…..
1 winner from 17 runners and that came in the Mares Charity Non-Festival Race.
Min – easily brushed aside by Altior – was the only other highlight. 4 fallers and the rest beaten between 20 and 60 lengths. Now, this is not my money, but for a bloke spending that much, the outcome is more than ridiculous.
People will surely have their own opinions and try telling me how good his horses were in the past, but it’s the present that counts.
If we are being totally honest many of his horses running at the Festival this year you could either poke massive holes in their existing form as simply not being good enough for their respective race or there were major doubts as to whether they were simply a light of former days.
Only 7 of his total runners actually started at single digit prices (which tells you it wasn’t as strong a team as in years past), of which only one was outright favourite (Getabird) whilst the other (Max Dynamite) was joint favourite. Getabird ran with the choke out for most of the way (it happens) and predictably folded like a cheap tent at the business end, whilst with Max Dynamite I am not sure where the confidence in him was as you have to go all the way back to 2014 to find any winning form on ground slower than good to soft/yielding.
Yes it was a god awful meeting for him but the law of averages tell you that it was simply not realistic to believe that he could sustain that continued level of success but I highly doubt it will be the cause for him to up sticks with Mullins lock stock and barrel.
Annie Power must be due to have that Camelot foal pretty imminently. It will be interesting to see whether Ricci decides to campaign it on the flat initially, or whether it will be kept as a pure jumper (my guess would be the former).
All this over one horse lol
Didnt ricci always say it was the irish racing scene he enjoyed the most, you would assume that 100k is pocket change in comparison to what he usually spends
Its not really a big deal lol, whoever mentioned above about the investment of JOS in mullins yard has made a fair point.
And ruby, thats not a catastrophic festival, had douvan stood up he “could” have had a chance of beating altior. min was a good second, will mop up the irish grade 1s, How many horses does ricci have in training? 30? How many does jp have? How many races did RR win and how many did JP win at the fes? Do you think that jp would be happy with a CH and a GA for that level of investment?? Of course he will, so why wouldnt RR?…..i think your way way off with your level of expectation of what is a good festival, one winner for 99% of owners would be substantial.
You say the mares race is a non event, but thats just your opinion, michael oleary certainly made clear his thoughts on it and hes one of the biggest owners around.
The Rich Ricci 2018 Festival form:
C A T A S T R O P H I C…..
1 winner from 17 runners and that came in the Mares Charity Non-Festival Race.
Min – easily brushed aside by Altior – was the only other highlight. 4 fallers and the rest beaten between 20 and 60 lengths. Now, this is not my money, but for a bloke spending that much, the outcome is more than ridiculous.
People will surely have their own opinions and try telling me how good his horses were in the past, but it’s the present that counts.
Lol, Have you any idea how much he spends? No, so you are guessing?
He’s had the most luck out of any owner in the past 10 years, by a mile. His spending power is not that of giggy, yet for years he seemed to be getting all the stars….that can’t keep happening.
Twitter: Jackh1092
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Well Jack, do you know exactly how much his horses cost?
All I know is that he’s had about 40 different horses running this season and he might have another 15-20 unraced ones for which he also pays training fees and visits to the vet and so on.
So in the end, he might paying around £ 1.0 to 1.2 million a year just to have this number of horses in training. The return of £800,000 so far for the season is not exactly great, considering that the purchase price isn’t even mentioned.He usually pays between £100,000 and £300,000 for most of his horses and I know that he can’t have all the luck on his side. But a man of his calibre won’t be happy with this kind of ROI or simply put with this years’ Cheltenham numbers.
Ham, I’m not saying the Mares contesting that race are bad ones, but why keeping them apart from the boys? That’s what the Festival was all about 15-25 years ago, good QUALITY racing.
Do you remember the likes of Dizzy, Brief Gale, Shuil Ar Aghaidh, Flakey Dove? All of them excellent mares winning proper races against the boys.
By the way, Apple’s Jade had an excuse according to O’Leary since she was/still is in season.I don’t know how much his horses cost… But I do know he got a £17 million + bonus in shares (which he sold straight away) when he left Barclays Investment. If you’re pulling £17m bonuses… I’m sure he can afford to ‘throw away’ a million a year for the rest of his life, for something that brings him joy. That is one bonus… Before the banking crash, what do you think he was pulling a year for a decade or two?
He’s absolutely minted. He trusts Mullins, and Mullins has brought him great success. Bet he never leaves him.
He had a horse called Fatcatinthehat didn’t he? Gave all of the horses winnings throughout it’s career to charity.
I doubt he cares one jot financially, about a ‘less successful’ Cheltenham or season.
Well Jack, do you know exactly how much his horses cost?
All I know is that he’s had about 40 different horses running this season and he might have another 15-20 unraced ones for which he also pays training fees and visits to the vet and so on.
So in the end, he might paying around £ 1.0 to 1.2 million a year just to have this number of horses in training. The return of £800,000 so far for the season is not exactly great, considering that the purchase price isn’t even mentioned.No I never professed to. I was simply pointing out that you are essentially guessing, which is correct.
You are going way over the top, you’d think for years his horses have done terribly.
Can you tell me a owner who has had as much luck with his buys in the last 10years? Oh and by the way, they all have a common denominator- Harold Kirk.
As for your money debate, he has earnings of around £868,000 and we haven’t had Punchestown yet…He’s likely to get something from there i presume. Thus, for such a “bad” year in your panic station, he’s not doing too badly considering?
As Ricci said at the beginning of the season, he has bought a lot in the last year due to the doubts over his top horses….Some have been injured etc. If he was wanting a hobby to solely profit he’d have chosen something else.Why would Ricci move to Henderson in the current climate? Ire horses are bossing GB horses and it doesn’t seem to be changing fast.
Twitter: Jackh1092
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Jack, I’ve never said that his horses were terrible for years. But, the glory days (when Vautour was around, Faugheen at the top of his game, Douvan a healthy horse and so on) seem to be gone now. VVM and Annie Power are broodmares, Djakadam is a real money spinner in the GC without winning and apart from Min, what exciting CHASING PROSPECTS does he have?
He is entitled to one, two or even more average or years, but fact is that there is no future superstar around the corner. And I don’t want to talk about the chance of winning the Mares’ Hurdles every year.
TheGun – I would imagine it will be aimed at the flat in the first instance as it is a middle distance pedigree (AP was actually related to several 10-12F horses).
Ricci was interviewed on Luck On Sunday a few weeks back and his mantra was that each horse has to at least cover their respective training expenses for the year to make it viable for him to have the numbers he does.
Currently (based on Racing Post stats) they have around €727,000 in total prize money in Ireland with a further £201k in England and with him probably having somewhere in the region of around 50-60 horses with Mullins and assuming the training costs are maybe around €20k you would imagine that he would have to pull in around €1.2m in prize money to cover training costs.
Interestingly last year they are listed as earning €1.237m in Ireland and a further £162k in England and with any horses not making the grade being sold on I would imagine he is somewhere close to breaking even. That is nothing compared to the prize money earned in 2015/16 season where they raked in €1.3m in Ireland and a further £1.2m in England.
Bottom line is that if he wasn’t at least breaking even, you would probably see him reducing his overall numbers instead.
Jack, I’ve never said that his horses were terrible for years. But, the glory days (when Vautour was around, Faugheen at the top of his game, Douvan a healthy horse and so on) seem to be gone now. VVM and Annie Power are broodmares, Djakadam is a real money spinner in the GC without winning and apart from Min, what exciting CHASING PROSPECTS does he have?
He is entitled to one, two or even more average or years, but fact is that there is no future superstar around the corner. And I don’t want to talk about the chance of winning the Mares’ Hurdles every year.
Getabird
Brahma Bull
Bamako Moriviere
Deal D’estruval- in time, a 5yo, might be given another year over hurdles
Sharjah- i don’t know if he’ll make a chaser, but often the ones that aren’t expect to, do.
Bapaume
Burrows Saint
Saldier
AnteyI am sure there’s more. Probably not a vintage lot, but i am sure one or two will improve for fences…They still have Benie who could be anythign over fences, if she didnt trouble herself jumping…
When i say, you’d think his horse have done terribly for years…i didnt mean you said that, i am saying, you’d think you are the way your going on about how bad his horses are doing. He hasnt a vintage lot, would he have a better bunch in England? Highly likely not.
Also, as for prize money being the seemingly deciding factor here, the prize money in England is laughable.
Twitter: Jackh1092
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Thanks for mentioning that interview LD.
Jack, I hope that some of your mentioned horses turn out to be something special over fences. Otherwise you’ll be seeing a lot of Gigginstown horses finishing 1-2-3 in the top Chases.Giggy dominate chases predominantly anyway- regardless of the level of RR’s horses!
That’s what they look for when buying the majority of their stock…They are likely to continue this dominance, as they dont look to be stopping spending!
Twitter: Jackh1092
Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!
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