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I have a quick question.
When oh when is this horse going to be allowed to run on his own merits and gain that long awaited win that his consistency and ability surely deserve ? He always seems to be in to make the pace for Duke of Marmalade or other O’Brien horses. <!– s:roll: –>
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Sorry – just read the rules for this section.
I should have put this in with the discussion on the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes.
My apologies to the moderator.
I think they will use the horse to ensure a slow pace tomorrow which will play into the hands of Duke of Marmalade.
I think they will use the horse to ensure a slow pace tomorrow which will play into the hands of Duke of Marmalade.
I would be amazed if the proven stayers let them get away with that tactic as they may as well not bother entering the stalls.
As for RRC they will need to find a GR3 for him to get off the mark.
I think they will use the horse to ensure a slow pace tomorrow which will play into the hands of Duke of Marmalade.
I would be amazed if the proven stayers let them get away with that tactic as they may as well not bother entering the stalls.
Me too, but i cant see how a fast pace will play into the hands of Duke of Marmalade when stepping up in trip. I may be completely wrong though.
I think they will use the horse to ensure a slow pace tomorrow which will play into the hands of Duke of Marmalade.
I would be amazed if the proven stayers let them get away with that tactic as they may as well not bother entering the stalls.
As for RRC they will need to find a GR3 for him to get off the mark.
I agree with you about Red Rock Canyon – he definitely needs a drop in class, though he is still a decent animal despite being a "maiden".
It beats me why connections don’t run him in a maiden or an event in which he can claim the maiden allowance, as in theory, he should win some of these turning handsprings !
I think RRC is well worth backing to make the first three. He is 200-1 1/4 the odds with quite a lot of firms and I have managed to get a few quid away at 40 on the BF place market.
It is relatively unlikely that he will go off at a stupid pace given they presumably don’t want a strongly run race for DOM. If he doesn’t go too fast then he isn’t 40-1 to hold on for a place imo – look at his Irish Champion run for example.
Red Rock Canyon has in my opinion produced his best performances when pacemaker. Being pacemaker helped, with other runners ignoring him. Flattered to get so close. I do not believe he will do any better "running on his own merits" in fact probably worse.
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Value Is EverythingHe probably won’t be running on his merits though – he’ll be run as a pacemaker but to keep the pace slow enough for DoM’s stamina worries not to be an issue. If Colm O’Donoghue plays his cards right – he could hold 3rd or even 2nd by getting first run on the other main fancies who will take a while to get going
He’s a hound no matter what the grade- he’d be a five star lay in any ordinary race as he always runs well but finds a way to get beaten- trust me I’ve seen him dog it more than once in bad maidens, that’s why he’s a pacemaker.
He’s a hound no matter what the grade- he’d be a five star lay in any ordinary race as he always runs well but finds a way to get beaten- trust me I’ve seen him dog it more than once in bad maidens, that’s why he’s a pacemaker.
I have to say that I don’t agree with you Carvilshill, but then racing is all about opinion.
Looking at his form, Red Rock Canyon has been unlucky to bump into some decent animals (the much-vaunted Teofilio on his debut for example) and he hasn’t even been given the opportunity to run in a maiden since June 2007. The form book too suggests that he is a much-improved animal.
Also none of the comments in running appear to suggest that he is "dogging" it and I have read that Aidan O’Brien holds a good opinion of him. I am sure that were he to run in a maiden next time out, he would win it without even really having to try, so superior would he be to any potential opposition.
If he can lead the King George field at Ascot till approaching the final furlong and keep on well to finish a highly respectable fourth, I have no doubt that he could win any maiden at Tipperary or Killarney (or almost any other Irish course) without even breaking sweat.
I for one am keeping my fingers crossed for him – go Red Rock Canyon !!!
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