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Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot)

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    Red Rum 77
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    David Tully is the name of the candidate who finished second to George Galloway, a vehicle repair shop owner. Probably wanting a kwikfix. :whistle:

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1683330
    Avatar photobefair
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    Rishi has a hard neck; after Brexit and Stop the Boats and the constant Tory dog whistles to the right, suddenly appealing for togetherness

    #1683376
    Richard88
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    Can’t believe he can spout that nonsense with a straight face. Same as how we hear about how awful it is that MPs get lots of abuse and worse. And it is but their mob are quite happy to encourage it when it suits them.

    As for Galloway, he’s a shameless, grifting crank but I can see why people voted for him. He’ll only be in for a few months before he’s booted out again. People are sick to death of this government, many of us who do want Labour in only do so because they are the only realistic alternative. It’s a consequence free way of giving both parties a bloody nose.

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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    I agree with Richard’s assessment of George Galloway. But he is undeniably far more intelligent and articulate than most MPs and media types. His dismantling of this schoolboy reporter (who would be out of his depth in a puddle) is a masterpiece:

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    Avatar photoIanDavies
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    I agree with CAS – many dismiss Galloway as an opportunist grifter but, while he has evidently made a living out of politics all his life, he is a formidable, intelligent, man, clearly able to think fast on his feet and he took apart Sam Coates, considered by some one of SKY’s more aggressive broadcasters himself, with consummate – and, at times hilarious – ease in that interview.

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    #1683650
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    He’s no mug that’s for sure and I don’t disagree with him on everything but he’s an embodiment of the phrase ‘if you don’t like my principles, I have others’. Although many of the charges you could lay against him could equally apply to politicians of all stripes.

    #1683779
    Richard88
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    This is excruciating. More electioneering than budget, pathetic cheap jibes at Labour and outright lies. Would be nice if they could all just sit down and shut up too. Embarrassing all round.

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    Oh dear, Reeves will have to re-do her sums, as he’s just ‘stolen’ the Non-Dom loot she had promised to public services.
    Will Labour pledge to undo the NI cont reduction (disclaimer: i dont benefit as i’m early retired)?

    (Labour) Caught in a (tax) trap :whistle:

    #1683824
    Richard88
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    Workers won’t see a great deal of the NI cut either with the tax thresholds being frozen. All smoke and mirrors. People are gradually waking up.

    But at least there’s no more duty on our £6 beers so The Sun can tell us how great that is tomorrow morning with a mock up of Hunt (sic) holding a pint.

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    Hunt was a disastrous Health Secretary. But so much has happened since then that everyone seems to have forgotten.

    #1683842
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Ah the nom dom money , now the Tories say Labour has no plan …. then steals its no plan … that wasn’t a election budget so we won’t be going to the polls until winter

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    I’m not sure what the as yet undecided voter will make of the government defending non-dom tax status for years then, as they near the end of their term, nicking the policy off the opposition but spending the money on tax cuts not the NHS as the Opposition planned.

    Anyone who automatically assumes this will be a win with the swing voter might be mistaken.

    The overall tax burden on the individual hasn’t really changed and some might view it as spiteful and callous: “Ha ha, you’ve got to think of a new policy new we’ve stolen yours, Reeves” – it’s not the best look for a government still presumably seeking re-election, is it?

    Or have the Conservatives actually given up now and this is what they are reduced to?

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    #1683851
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    They know the game’s up, they’re just trying to screw things up as much as possible so that Labour inherit the biggest mess imaginable and then the Tory press can get to work on somehow blaming them for it.

    Of course as usual, the alleged positives yesterday were all down to the 14 years of this amazing Tory government, anything bad was down to covid and Putin.

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    “….anything bad was down to covid and Putin.”

    Hmm…well, covid certainly cost and NO government, of whatever colour, would’ve been able to avoid huge sums of money being spent. Could certain aspects have been done better? Yes, one example is the way businesses applied for financial help, which was open to fraud, for sure (by some). And furlough could, and should have been ended earlier.
    One ‘hangover’ imho, from covid/furlough, is the increase in those on out-of-work benefits (now c2.9m); no one will convince me that suddenly another c600k need these benefits.

    FACT: Current estimates of the total cost of government Covid-19 measures range from about £310 billion to £410 billion. This is the equivalent of about £4,600 to £6,100 per person in the UK. Official figures show that spending in 2020/21 was about £179 billion higher than had been planned before the pandemic for that year. Source: The Commons library 12 Sept 2023

    #1683854
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    My point isn’t about covid as such, just that they are using it as a convenient excuse for all their incompetence. Yes, it exacerbated things but there is a cocktail of things causing our problems and they are one of them.

    Notice also how rising inflation was apparently totally out of their control but ‘we’ brought it back down.

    Thankfully more and more people are finally not falling for this rubbish. Better late than never.

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    Britain is a country in terminal decline. It does not really matter if it is the puppets with blue rosettes or the puppets with red rosettes with their hands on the wheel. The ship is still heading for the rocks anyway. Unless one set of them wakes up and changes direction (which they won’t).

    #1687123
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    The ones in blue are making the decline much more rapid. The economy is in a terrible state while the gap between rich and poor is now a chasm. Real wages are down 20% since 2010. House prices are at an unsustainable level. It couldn’t be much worse. Yet some won’t give labour a chance. Knowt as Queen as folk as they say in Yorkshire I believe.

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