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    Avatar photoalbrookes
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    For those of you who’s eyebrows were furrowed a little when a filly called Brevity began racing this season, not so long after her namesake, Milton Bradley’s old sprinter finished racing, here’s another to add into the mix:

    Snow Ridge (Prescott/Cheveley Park Stud) makes his debut at Wolverhampton only 6 years after Godolphin’s version finished 2nd in the 2000 Guineas behind Haafhd.

    Snow Bridge, Snow Edge, Snow Ledge could have all been registered for the first time (according to RP’s database). Pull your fingers out, horse-namers.

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    I don’t think it should be allowed. Once a horse has had a particular name that’s it.

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    eddie case
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    Both Snow Ridges could have run at the same time Adam, one was bred in GB and the other in IRE.

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    It’s inevitable that names will be re-used, we’d soon run out of names otherwise.

    I think there is a set of rules on it.

    Anyone know what they are?

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    jose1993
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    http://www.horseracingintfed.com/racing … section=17

    A protected International name list.

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    Maybe we should learn to read and write Arabic before total confusion sets in.

    Azal Azzal Azall Azsal Ahzal Ahzaal Ahzall etc etc.

    Re-using names is ok but there was a time a while back if you tried to register a name that was too similar to another in training they would knock you back.

    Of course Joe Smith doesn’t put the millions our Arabic friends do so I guess they turn a blind eye to it.

    It totally confuses me and when I see name in the entries I keep thinking some maiden is a Group horse that ran last yaer if you follow my drift.

    How many if any the above exist I don’t know but far too many Arab owned horses have very similar names and I am more concered about that than some permit holder from Norton calling a 2 mile novice hurdler Sea Pigeon II…not that they’d let him.

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    Do any mathematician know how many possible names there are? I posted a thread on this a month or so ago, could it be possible that every possible combination of a name could be done? excluding the Arab names.

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    David Gold’s Come On The Irons which is due to run tomorrow, is one who had to be renamed. Originally called Come On You Irons, it was felt that this was a tad too similar to the Mark Hoad trained C’mon You Irons. Surprisingly enough.

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    It’s inevitable that names will be re-used, we’d soon run out of names otherwise.

    I disagree. To me, it shows a total lack of imagination on the owner’s part. The re-using of old names, especially those of past greats really annoys me. I know that this is one of John McCririck’s great bugbears – and rightly so.

    There are nigh on an infinite amount of names to chose from.

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    I agree, Himself. As I kind of pointed to in my original post. I know it’s nit-picking but surely Cheveley Park haven’t become that lazy that they’ve resulted in re-using names. Like Highclere they tend to have one word names so I’m sure there’s hundreds of words in the OED that haven’t been used yet.

    Even if it was Snow Ridge vs Snow Ridge(IRE) it would still be needlessly similar.

    Whoever is in charge of naming a large owner’s string of horses, give me the job – I’m sure I could go a few hundred years without repeating a name!

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    obiwankenobi
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    We have had a couple of names refused, Africa Star – refused as too near to African Star (SAS)broodmare 20 odd years old!. Law Lord – refused there is one registered (GB) no longer are you allowed to have the same name with a different country of birth. It is getting enormously difficult to name horses, especially if you try and follow the breeding.

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    homersimpson
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    A horse named Binocular ran in a handicap hurdle at Listowel last Saturday. Although running a fair race to finish 2nd off top weight, I don’t think he was the Champion Hurdle winner :lol: Think the horse was bred in Britain :?

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    What about last years classic fillies Hibaayeb and Habaayib

    Pain in the hole!

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