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- October 23, 2009 at 19:29 #254968
Full Colour? Does that mean the form will be printed in a nice shade of mauve???
October 23, 2009 at 20:09 #254979take a step back guys, look at what your moaning about, downloads cheaper than racecards, racing post an extra 10p a day midweek, download betfair cos its free.
do you drive extra 10 miles to get petrol 1p cheaper?
do you go to supermarkets late at night to buy out of date food cheaper?
do you own million pound properties in Southern Spain drink Crystal, smoke big cigars, but brag to your mates that your easyjet flight was £2 cheaper than theirs?
put in perspective its 50p a week more or 90p with weekends,
just how big are your gambling habits, perhaps you need help from gamcare
October 23, 2009 at 20:20 #254983It’s not the 10p they’re moaning about, it’s the opportunity to have a go at the Racing Post. Pointless really.
October 23, 2009 at 21:08 #254988Well I buy it and will continue to do so as I like the paper in my hand. I don’t read the news online either and I buy a newspaper. I buy the Sun and the Times and a mix of others too! On a Sunday I do not read most of the Times but still pay what ever it is. Supply and demand…
October 23, 2009 at 22:04 #255002
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I’ll still buy it when I need it, but it seems barmy putting the price up in the middle of recession and when sales are declining anyway.
Hardly surprising under its present stewardship though, and the biggest fear is them ballsing up the newspaper along with the website. Wonder if they’ll survive long enough to answer our Q&A session?
October 23, 2009 at 22:09 #255004put in perspective its 50p a week more or 90p with weekends
Congratulation sir! It’s a while since I’ve seen that splendidly fatuous argument given an airing. You’ll be happy for them to put it up another 10p every Saturday then.
The RP on Saturday will now be 26% more expensive than it was 3 years ago, against an RPI for the same period of 7.6%.
Hardly anyone thinks it’s as good a product as it was then, and most think it’s worse .
Do anyone really think it will see out another 10 years?
October 24, 2009 at 08:11 #255029I fear it is from the same school of Economics that suggests betting to 3% overround per runner is little different to betting to 2% overround per runner. Well, it’s only 1%, innit: what are you all bleating about?
Whatever next, this champion of free marketeering asking for a subsidy to bet on course? Lol.
Hold on, that is actually what he asked for on another thread!
October 24, 2009 at 08:16 #255030perhaps a GOOD competitor might have survived
October 24, 2009 at 09:24 #255035Hello,
I purchased the newly priced paper early today, got home and found half the pages missing…

I had go back to the shop for a full version and we found other copies with missing pages….
How on earth am I supposed to select my losers without the complete information??

regards,
doyley
October 24, 2009 at 15:17 #255109Have to say I am a little bit baffled by the new look Post.
The extra stats are excellent – they could go a bit further and add Class of race to the other stats like left-handed and right-handed records. Would also like to see the recent form of jockeys and trainers on the cards somewhere too. It’s also good to see the number of CD wins on the racecards. So pat on the back for that.
However, this is a major missed opportunity to make the Post much more user-friendly. The cards and form are still arranged as if the paper only had limited colour pages.
As one option, a form and stats pull-out would now be possible – on a Saturday it would be approx 48 pages with all the form and signposts etc in it. This would save a lot of page-turning looking for the form when studying a race.
The many weekend readers who don’t necessarily look at the form would also have a much more manageable paper once the form pull-out was discarded. I know from experience that readers really like this pull-out idea.
If that’s considered too radical, why are the card pages for each meeting still interspersed with pages of form?
All pages are colour now so, at the very least, run the racecards for each meeting, then run the form afterwards.
Look at the way Stratford has been presented in today’s paper as an example – it doesn’t make sense to have two columns of form, then two pages of cards, then a page of form, then three-quarters of a page of ratings, then the final race, then more form.
Why not put the cards on consecutive pages, followed by the form? It would make life much, much easier. The bookies have the betting shop display now, so it wouldn’t cause them problems putting the paper on the walls.
Or as another option, put the form immediately after each card – ie: 2.10 race, form; 2.40 race, form; and so on. None of those changes would require more staff or resources – in fact the pull-out would make the paper a lot easier to produce.
October 24, 2009 at 16:06 #255123
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Or how about betting shops install computers for online form? with all that money from the FOBT’s I am sure they can afford the leccy bill at end of the month
October 24, 2009 at 16:53 #255133Maybe it’s the cumulative effect of suddenly having to pay £20/mth for RUK when I got it free in my sports tv pack, having to suddenly pay up to £20/mth for the RP website when it was also free and now having to pay extra for the RP paper – all of a sudden the expenses have gone up noticeably.
Barry of course won’t mind, offering 16s and 20s on course for 30+s on the exchange and nicking plenty of margin lower down in the market – even if that didn’t cover the extras it would be marked down and offset against tax I expect.
October 24, 2009 at 17:27 #255140I stopped buying it ages ago, too expensive then – even more so now. The only time i would was if i had a horse i looked after that ran in a ‘decent’ race. And now i’m not in racing now, its not worth it – the Sun or Star do decent enough racecards for a quick look at!!
daiesy
October 24, 2009 at 18:05 #255152Before we moan to much you should see what other countries have to put up with. Anybody used to reading Paris Turf or Daily Racing Form would be very envious of the Racing Post in full colour and at a price point which compares favourably.
October 24, 2009 at 18:10 #255153Before we moan to much you should see what other countries have to put up with. Anybody used to reading Paris Turf or Daily Racing Form would be very envious of the Racing Post in full colour and at a price point which compares favourably.
Indeed – the RP is the equivalent of £1 cheaper than the Paris-Turf. One thing I would say though is that PT has photo’s of the finishes of each race labelled with each of the first 7 or 8 home, particularly useful for jumps races etc. Negative of PT is that you have to buy the previous days to get that days cards so for Saturdays races you’d need Fridays paper
October 24, 2009 at 18:16 #255154I’ve seen those photos of races in the Australian papers and they are quite good. They show them just after the start, at halfway and at the line. Online video replays have made them look very old fashioned but they are still useful.
As for digital form, in Scandinavia they have large screens like plasma TVs on the walls with the cards and form – very little paper is involved. I guess that will happen here in the next few years.October 24, 2009 at 18:57 #255161Great paper, the RP. Love it. It’ll be here in twenty five years, ne’er mind ten.
The growth of the Internet appears to have spawned an awful lot of skinflints, innit. Tenpence? I’ll bet half you lot thought Mars Bars were
loads
bigger when we were kids.
Well done the Post. Enjoyable innovations today.
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