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Mansun, I note you conveniently ignored my previous post, so I’ll reprise it here again for you, and ask that you provide an answer this time.
Either these people you refer to are sick with compulsion and can do nothing about it, in which case they would bet on something regardless of whether tipsters existed or not.
Or they aren’t sick, are betting for entertainment only (your words), but are too lazy to do their own research and instead slavishly follow newspaper tipsters.
Which is it??
In either case, I fail to see where Tipsters, the racing media, me or any other fu*cker is culpable.”[/color:3aqzbepg]
PS. The closest I ever came to working in the meedja is when I went to Glasgow for an audition as a BBC Sports reporter in 1998 (perhaps this makes me a wannabe??).
Anyways, this was an open-house ‘talent’ day, so any feckless ar*se could audition – hence my pitching up. I’m sad to report that I had a four hour wait between checking-in at the SEC, and being auditioned, and spent the entire time sitting in my pals car smoking Orange Bud, losing all command of the English language by the time I was ‘up’.
Given your recent postings, I’m inclined to sue the Beeb for failing to put up large signs around the SEC indicating that smoking marijuana can fu*ck-up your ability to read an auto-cue, as clearly my shabby and embarassing ‘performance’ was all their fault, and nothing whatsoever to do with me.
For the record, I run my own business, and can fart the theme tune to Cheggers Plays Pop. As you can tell, my chalice overflows, and I already have everything that a man could possibly want.
Yours contentedly
Grassmansun,
rather than whining on about it ad nauseum, maybe you should consider contacting the RP itself.
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I am merely responding to the posts of others.
Quite the opposite, as it happens…………..
Of all the opinions i have come across on here over the years, the idea that mug punters should be “protected” by tipsters from their own laziness or plain stupidty is the most bizarre yet
Ye verily an idea befitting of the adjective Haywoodesque.
Or Jackane-Lite.
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Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Actually, I’ll defend that one. You are whining on about it ad nauseum. That is an indisputable fact. Not guilty.
And don’t worry – I am at my best away from the constraints of obligation.
The racing industry has bigger fish to fry than worrying about newspaper tipsters "defrauding" the betting public.
I think it is unjust for somebody to earn a living and plaudits without their tips being subjected to scrutiny.
The RP is perfectly happy to publish the strike rates of tipsters from other newspapers, but Pricewise and Trading Post seem to mysteriously get away with it.
If that is your point, then I suggest that you are missing something else, that being a handle on reality! Do you really think the Racing Post are in the business of talking down their own writers? Because if they are, I certainly wouldn’t want to be a journalist for the Racing Post!
And that is what the spangles who follow these people forget- they are just journalists. People wouldn’t put money on a horse if Kate Adie told them to do so, but because these people work for the Racing Post you think they’re instantly duty-bound to give the public a golden cascade of winners, on pain of a sacking?
Public scrutiny for journos- that did make me laugh. Imagine the ‘Tipster Police’ barging into Tom Segal’s office and telling him he has to start tipping winners or he’s out on his ear. I think you’d see a lot of 1/3 shots turning up on Pricewise for the following few weeks!
Nice tipping today Pru, 2 winners at 6/5 and 15/8 and a second at 7/2…that should silence the critics!
Can you tell yet how much, if any you tipping a horse in the Post affects the price? Do you end up not backing some of your tips on value grounds as a consequence?
Given my recent form I suspect my "influence on the market" could only be negative!
FWIW, Cerebus was 6/5 from over 5/2 on Betfair, though the latter simply seemed to be a rick by the overnighters.
I am in no danger of silencing my critics – or the self-critic in me, for that matter – but it is quite possible that never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by one man to such a short-priced winner…
One thing you have to remember about a tipster in a newspaper is they have to get the tips in the day before racing. Im not sure what the deadline is but I would guess it would be quite early.
Its easy to knock a newspaper tipster, but from the time they gave the tip out a lot of things could have changed. The ground could have changed, price could be completely different than what they were expecting, loads of things could have happened.
The likliehood is that most of the racing press tipsters are pretty decent in there own right but they have a tough job.
I think especially with the racing posts new set up of a tipster having one day a week, a tipster has the chance to be outrageously unlucky. They may have a winning day 6 days a week and then on the day when they are published they have a losing day. A tipster who has 6 out of 7 winning days is doing exceptionally well, but could well be unlucky on that 1 day when the work is published. It goes with the territory that you are open to abuse as a racing post tipster and I guess you just have to accept that and deal with it.
All tipsters will have good days all tipsters will have bad days. Its a free service and it is up to anyone who decides to follow it. I hate it when a tipster agrees with my fancy as it normally means the price will shorten but I am delighted when an RP tipster naps one of my lays.you should read these threads before you post Zoso- I made exactly the same point several pages ago! Great minds, eh
you should read these threads before you post Zoso- I made exactly the same point several pages ago! Great minds, eh
WowI actually just read your latest piece on the value thread and agreed with everything you said.
This could be the start of a beautiful forum relationship
Its a free service
It’s about time too, no way am i contributing to Winstanley’s , Down’s, Wheldon’s, Mount’s, Smith’s, Rowlands wages
Nice tipping today Pru, 2 winners at 6/5 and 15/8 and a second at 7/2…that should silence the critics!
Can you tell yet how much, if any you tipping a horse in the Post affects the price? Do you end up not backing some of your tips on value grounds as a consequence?
I think you hit the nail on the head CH. Serious punters aren’t really going to be interested in tips themselves at SP, but they might be interested in the logic or reasoning behind those selections. That is all RP tipping can do – hopefully tip up some winners and also provide some interesting reasons behind them.
NIce work yesterday Prufrock btw – bit unlucky not to get the treble up. I certainly don’t think Sophia Gardens was a fortunate winner either – the fact she stays on so strongly was always going to be one of the key weapons in her armoury.
I’d presume, people giving good logic and sound reasoning for their selections would help odds compilers with their pricing
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