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  • #23454
    Avatar photoFran the man
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    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … t7DaysNews

    So it’s been brought to a conclusion and finally they’ve been found guilty, maybe the stewards might start paying attention at the gaf tracks now and not just brush everything under the carpet.

    How long will Heffernan get banned for, 10 years?

    The one person i feel sorry for out of this whole thing is Seamie Heffernan, i’ve had 3 friends with a passing interest in racing asking me "is that the lad that rides for Aidan o’ Brien?".

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    Pretty fair summation of racing’s position in the grand scheme of sporting hierachy when the BBC’s website headline their article ‘Footballers guilty in racing case’.

    Rob

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    Pretty fair summation of racing’s position in the grand scheme of sporting hierachy when the BBC’s website headline their article ‘Footballers guilty in racing case’.

    Dunno Rob. Think it’s more a summation of football’s position in the grand scheme of things.

    Mike

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    Reading through the findings I have to say my reaction was "is Heffernan really as thick and stupid as he comes across in this report?"

    If the implications were not so serious, I would say the whole affair bordered on farce, was totally lacking in any sophistication and is an object lesson in how not to pull off such a stunt.

    It really was a case of Carry On Non-Trying.

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    15 year ban for Heffernan – good riddance to him.

    He actually received two 15 year bans but they decided they should run concurrently – shame they were not made consecutive.

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    It’s a big read but here is a link to the findings

    http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-and-Reasons-of-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-regarding-Andrew-Heffernan-et-al-363.aspx

    and to the penalties (reasons to follow in a few days)

    http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Disciplinary-Panel-penalties-regarding-Andrew-Heffernan-et-al-364.aspx

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    It’s very good news, there are doubtless many slimier operators riding than Heffernan. Hope they nail a few more.

    #427420
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    It’s a big read but here is a link to the findings

    http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-and-Reasons-of-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-regarding-Andrew-Heffernan-et-al-363.aspx

    and to the penalties (reasons to follow in a few days)

    http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Disciplinary-Panel-penalties-regarding-Andrew-Heffernan-et-al-364.aspx

    Thanks Paul i just had a read, wow how unpolished an outfit were they, absolutely awful attempts at cover ups, how did it take 2 years :shock: 2 hours should have sufficed :roll:

    Anyone that has wits about them at all will never be caught if this is anything to go by :roll:

    #427431
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    Should be life bans.

    What baffles me is why the Police do not get involved. They have surely committed criminal offences of fraud.
    They have de frauded hundreds if not thousands of ordinary punters out of money by pulling horses.

    #427434
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    The AW dross does it again :evil:

    How many more investigations will it take before someone wakes up and thinks ……..2500 prize money ….14 runners …..er how does that work ?????

    Aw dross is the perfect situation for these events

    Yet we make more and even more of these so called betting opportunities available

    meanwhile the reputation of British racing surges even lower

    what a mess

    imo

    Ricky

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    Should be life bans.

    What baffles me is why the Police do not get involved. They have surely committed criminal offences of fraud.
    They have de frauded hundreds if not thousands of ordinary punters out of money by pulling horses.

    The punter is paying for a winning attempt, it’s like buying a cd and not getting a tune. In the latter case you’d get your money back or a a working cd.

    Having studied form and selected his runner, the punter must now figure out if the horse will be trying or not.

    #427443
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    How many more investigations will it take before someone wakes up and thinks ……..2500 prize money ….14 runners …..er how does that work ?????

    14 runners? If only! The only races with that many runners on the all-weather at this time of year are the jumpers bumpers (non-handicaps, which strangely have their ‘safety limits’ raised to 16).

    I’ll think you’ll find we’ve turned a corner in the war against corruption. You only have to look at today’s renewal of the Wanchai Whisper race at the heart case (the 1.30 Lingfield) to see that the general public can bet with confidence on the sport.

    What’s more, if you actually read the press release on the case you’ll see that the all-weather is pivotal in bringing fresh blood to the sport. It’s amazing how many once-a-year flutterers are instantly converted into heavy hitters at the first sight of the all-weather. I think it’s something in the sand.

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    Glen , indeed I just looked the race up on the web ….yep gamble landed …and well done all round ……

    Makes you wonder though ……..could this be the new reincarnation of Barney ,,,,,all the hallmarks are there

    As for the new blood in the sport , well the crowds at leafy are sub 200 nowadays , so you can bosh that one on the head ….

    I was laughing watching Nick Luck and R Hoile s plus Mick Fitz , talk up the AW last sat on ch4, such good experience for the jockeys etc ….yes indeed , but from which position I ask ….

    Dross is dross , and for sure the future and pending investigations ….are bound to be based around these lovely venues

    I am glad I do not bother

    imo

    Ricky

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    Should be life bans.

    What baffles me is why the Police do not get involved. They have surely committed criminal offences of fraud.
    They have de frauded hundreds if not thousands of ordinary punters out of money by pulling horses.

    It’s a good question, probably the answer lies in the fact that gambling debts are not legally enforceable, something like that. My oh my, if they were this ‘sport’ would be ripped apart in a week.

    #427550
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    Should be life bans.

    What baffles me is why the Police do not get involved. They have surely committed criminal offences of fraud.
    They have de frauded hundreds if not thousands of ordinary punters out of money by pulling horses.

    It’s a good question, probably the answer lies in the fact that gambling debts are not legally enforceable, something like that. My oh my, if they were this ‘sport’ would be ripped apart in a week.

    #427556
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    Be nice for this type of thing to be life time bans, but I don’t know if the length of ban is that important in practice. Nobody will want to employ a jockey with that record. And sadly, if the BHA wanted to enforce a real "life time" ban, they’d be taken to court themselves by the "fair and proper penalty" brigade.

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    #427562
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    Should be life bans.

    What baffles me is why the Police do not get involved. They have surely committed criminal offences of fraud.
    They have de frauded hundreds if not thousands of ordinary punters out of money by pulling horses.

    It’s a good question, probably the answer lies in the fact that gambling debts are not legally enforceable, something like that. My oh my, if they were this ‘sport’ would be ripped apart in a week.

    Yes they are enforceable. Gambling Act 2005 which came into force in 2007. So far as I can see Racing hasn’t been ripped apart in five years.

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