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  • #1602114
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Love this race.

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    #1602123
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    Fav Eldar Eldorov has obvious potential to improve but have missed the price. He’s also yet to run on a firmish surface (admittedly from only two starts) and is by softer ground influence Dubawi.

    Nahaani probably has the best form, likely to improve at the trip if recovered from his run in the Derby (seemed frightened by the fireworks) and better than position suggests. At 6/1 could run below form and still be placed. Unraced on good-firm but is by Frankel. Could do with him getting a good start this time though. 6/1 imo well worth taking each way.

    …As is 10.5/1 about stable companion Halfit. Disappointed a little only start on a soft surface at odds-on in France last time out. First time cheek pieces a bit of a worry. Seemed straightforward enough when making the running in three horse race penultimate start, close second to stablemate the enigmatic Walk Of Stars at 10 furlongs. Officially the best rated horse in this field and although by Dubawi is out of a Galileo mare and any horse that stays 1m2f well at two (beaten in a photo in Zetland Stakes) should stay this trip.

    The other one I’ve backed is Baltic Bird @ 12/1. Got something to find on form, only a Yarmouth maiden to his name but looks crying out for a staying trip. Gosdens usually have a good team of staying three year olds and this is presumably their best.

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    #1602179
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    I’m on Anchorage ew, purely because of connections. Ballydoyle have only been out of the 3 places once in the past ten years- in Stradivarius’ year, when the AOB horse missed out on third by a head. Most firms are giving 4 places ew today. You have to go back to 2005 (when it was run at York) for a running when Ballydoyle were out of the 4.

    #1602204
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    You could also say that AOB has never in that time been as short on 3yo+ talent as this year, Green’.

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    #1602205
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    Can’t let my Emotion go @ a massive 37/1 ew.

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    #1602207
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    “Love this race.”

    So did I, Ginge… until they reduced the distance. 😡

    #1602210
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    Since the drop in trip and elevation to Group class the average quality of the race has gone up significantly, Glad. Three of the five winners have gone on to Group 1 success/s, Stradivarius, Kew Gardens and Irish Derby winner Santiago. Last year’s second Wordsworth also second and third in Group 1’s.

    When it was 2 miles fewer horses seemed to go on afterwards. Arguably 2m is too far for quality three year olds this early in the season. 1m6f+ is still a staying race.

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    #1602221
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    “You could also say that AOB has never in that time been as short on 3yo+ talent as this year, Green’.”

    Very true and also, as you point out, it didn’t used to be as competitive or good quality a race either so my Ballydoyle musings are a bit shaky.

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    Am sure some of AOB’s will run well, Green’. :good:

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    #1602227
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    I had a less than life-changing bet on Emotion at 44 last night.

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    #1602228
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    Eldar Eldorov insurebet 3 places.
    Hoping the ground is alright for him.

    #1602230
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    I was going to side with Anchorage, but he’s not really progressed as I’d hoped, so my sensible money is on Eldar Eldorov. I have also bet Emotion 25-1 ew with 5 places on offer

    #1602232
    Mike007
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    Get in!

    #1602235
    greenasgrass
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    Well done Mike and Chris…Anchorage came 5th ;-)

    #1602236
    Mike007
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    Wd winners.

    #1602237
    Mike007
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    Ta Green.

    #1602238
    Avatar photoKris
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    Thank you Greenasgrass

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