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4/1 Sea The Stars – Won’t go, but if hes does, he take a lot of beating.
6/1 Stacelita – Could still be anything, and will love this longer trip. However, as with Zarkava last year, we don’t know what her from is worth, and how she’ll perform when the stable isn’t in red – hot form. IMHO she’s got a chance, but more of a 10/1 chance. Waiting for her to run a trail.
7/1 Fame And Glory – Has been my Arc horse since Epsom, and I’m not changing my view now. Always shown ability,and copes with any ground, although he does like cut, which he’ll get here. I know he’s more of a stayer than anything, but he’s still got class and may well be rested for the race.
12/1 Conduit – Massive contender now. He has proved speed and stamina, (Shown by his win in the Gordon Stakes, St Ledger and BC Turf) and his 2 runs this season have been respectable in their own right, taking into account he’ll need 12f or more. He has the turn of foot required, and there’s still more to come.
Vision D’Etat – Solid performer who has a lot of stayping power and speed, and picked up his 3rd Group 1 Victory in the Prince Of Wale’s Stakes at Royal Ascot. No reasons to see him doing badly here, but winning might be beyond him.
16/1 Beheshtam, Cutlass Bay
Behestham looks like a real Arc contenders, coming from connection that know how to win this race and already they seem to be confident. He’s definitely one for the GP – De Paris in my book, and is a lively contender.Cutlass Bay could still be anything, but his form doesn’t exactly look strong at this level.
20/1 Casual Conquest, Fuisse, Tartan Bearer
Fuisse ran well in the French Derby, but Bestham will improve for the step up in trip IMO.Casual Conquest’s form is strong enough, but i think there are about 6-8 top notchers who are better than him.
Tartan Bearer, on the face of all his form doesn’t look good enough to win an Arc, but could run well at big odds.25/1 Adlerflug, Aizavoski, Ask, Cima de Triomphe, Gan Amhras, Masterofthehorse, Rip Van Winkle, Soldier Of Fortune, Youmzain
Youmzain makes most appeal of those.In regards to the grand prix de paris does anyone know the date of the race and where i could find the runners and ante post betting?
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John Oxx as I expected is ruling Sea the Stars out of the Arc already.
To be honest I have sever doubts if he would win the Arc anyway after Saturdays performace..
Rip Van Winkle got very close to him and wouldn’t certainly been even closer had he gone through with his run and not tried to duck in behind.
No doubt Sea the Stars would run well but with a strong pace 1m4f to travel and some very good horses being 100% spot on I wouldn’t fancy it either if I was OXX.
I loved his statement about the King George only being 3 weeks away and the Juddmonte International would give them more time……..Try the KG is over a mile and half Mr Oxx and the Juddmonte International isn’t is what he really means.
He’s beat Conduit and there’s nothing else in the race worth worrying about?
Simply he has his 1mf4 badge in the Derby so the stud points are in…….no way will he run over 1m4f again that’s a certainty IMO.
In regards to the
grand prix de paris
does anyone know the date of the race and where i could find the runners and ante post betting?
That particular race, Fist, is on July 14th.
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Stand corrected I thought he was asking about the Arc
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Le Havre suffered a tendon and will be retired to stud. I knew the price was too good to be true, and was hoping that people were anticipating it not being supplemented rather than something more sinister.
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Well unfortunately none of my shortlist have made it into the entries for the GP de Paris (Telluride was my #1 pick fwiw) so I’m very happy to now commit to Beheshtam.
Sadly the Arc itself is going to be a poor event.
Who’s going to turn up. Casual Conquest, Conduit, Vision D’Etat, Stacelita, Beheshtam and Fame And Glory.
ie. Last season’s scraps, 2 very overrated 3yos and a typical late French bloomer.
While this would seem a overreaction just the way Fame And Glory runs he reminds me of his sire Montjeu, while he isn’t in the bracketclass wise, he has the makings exceptional horse to me and needs to come off a fast pace, he was underrated as a 2 y/o and finally got some recognition and probably proved even Ballydoyle wrong how good he was, just overshadowed with how good STS is.
He will get his breakneck pace so who ever can beat him shall win this, think the Aga colt is hugely way more overrated than Fame And Glory . Fame And Glory’s Derby run was I thought more promising more than a let down. He clearly needs a fast pace but can run satisfactory if the race is slow.
Zarkava as usual struggling to contain his excitement in a big race thread
That’s a tad unfair. I thought the Derby and Eclipse both attracted high class fields. Just think we’re going through yet another poor crop. I was afraid this’d happen all winter tbh.
This years seems a better renewal than last year, without Zarkava lighting it up it would have been a dreadful renewal.
Zarkava as usual struggling to contain his excitement in a big race thread
That’s a tad unfair. I thought the Derby and Eclipse both attracted high class fields. Just think we’re going through yet another poor crop. I was afraid this’d happen all winter tbh.
If you don’t think the race is of a standard you’d like to see of an arc, then just try and enjoy the occasion.
I could get a bit excited over a 2 legged donkey race at Blackpool beach if there was a couple of Bob on it.
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Zarkava as usual struggling to contain his excitement in a big race thread
That’s a tad unfair. I thought the Derby and Eclipse both attracted high class fields. Just think we’re going through yet another poor crop. I was afraid this’d happen all winter tbh.
Not unfair at all. We seem to be struggling this season to come up with decent opposition. The Derby turned out to be a joke and more like a 7 furlong sprint than any Derby I have ever seen.
Conduit didn’t seem to appreciate the drop in trip in the Eclipse like I hoped and we get a pretty ordinary race in the end.
The top horse Sea the Stars is as far removed from something like Dancing Brave as you can possibly hope to get. They make him fav for the Arc and he won’t even turn up.
Fame and Glory beats his own stable companion in what looked a better race than the Derby even only three horses turned up……I know there were others came out the stalls but where they went I have no idea.
Mastercraftsman just got the best of Delegator who is no more a classic horse than flying in the air.
So I really hope the second half of the season is better than the first and I am sure it will be.
The Arc looks poor just now but there’s a new kid on the block who is beeing trained for the race and could end up making them all go. I’ll tell you once I am on
It is unlikely that Sea The Stars will turn up for the Arc, but I have liitle doubt ( from what I witnessed so far ) that if he did take his chance, and the ground was good, he’d definitely be the one they’d all have to beat.
In my opinion, he’s the best middle distance turf horse in the world at the moment – bar none.
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