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  • #320665
    Avatar photothehorsesmouth
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    Well done to all the Workforce backers! :wink:

    #320669
    Avatar photoJJMSports
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    Happy for the trainer, unhappy for the forum, let the gloating from TAPK commence!

    #320672
    RedRiot
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    Everything pointed to Workforce form wise, wish some people on here were bookmakers.

    Think Gosden will have to look for a new jockey when he sends his horses to France for the time being cause I see a lengthy ban for William Buick, cause of not one but two cases of interference. Fame And Glory was almost brought crashing down cause of Buick and Lope De Vega got a bang by F&G.

    #320673
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    Is this going off air before the stewards enquiry???

    Dubai revisited.

    #320676
    fivelongdays
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    I’m really chuffed about this – they can’t change the result, surely?

    Oh well, as hinted earlier on (whether in this or another post, I can’t remeber) I was on Nakayama Festa e/w…and in a combi f/c.

    Just a shame Cape Blanco didn’t do better!

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #320678
    RedRiot
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    Workforce did nothing wrong imo, did well to get a nice line as he did. Duncan is the horse who causes it.

    #320679
    Onthesteal
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    FAG caused the bother – Workforce was almost passed LDV when the trouble happened. What a fantastic run down the straight that was! Seemed like he got there in twelve strides. Hope he stays in training.

    #320680
    RedRiot
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    F&G was a victim, Buick is the one who barges Fame And Glory and Fame And Glory falls into Lope De Vega.

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    From what I saw from the side view, Planteur seemed to slow with Fame & Glory running up his backside. Then avaiding action bumped Loop De Vega…

    Workforce keeps the race.

    Value Is Everything
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    fivelongdays
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    Racing Post says the winner is not affected by the enquiry, and the presentation’s been made.

    Fingers crossed, eh?

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #320684
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    Great to see Workforce back.
    Just shows what a virus in the yard can do (King George).
    Should have kept to my firm belief of his Derby form being very good. The drifting at diferent times made me think he still wasn’t quite right. My fault, not SMS or connections.

    Great to see SMS and RM have their first Arc winner.
    Well done TAPK and all who backed him.

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    A good result for the Derby and King George form, but was Workforce not a touch fortunate? Sarafina looked to almost come down as they turned in to the straight and Gerard Mosse has worked miracles to get her in to third from what was an awful position.

    #320687
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    Lots of good arguements here.

    First I’ll start by saying what a brilliant performance Harbinger put in. If I hadn’t lost money in the race I’d have been jumping on the couch.

    Workforce….
    1) Knee action is too high for fast ground. He will do damage to himself running on it. He’ll be sore tomorrow, thats for sure
    2) I believe the theory of Willoghby’s that a horse can over stretch themselves and leave scars.
    3) Many say that Ascot is a specialists track, some horses dont perform there
    4) He probably was too free, he was covered up on both his romps in a big field coming through horses
    5) He was said to be in a "disheveled" state after the Derby – backing up Willoughbys claims
    6) The Cape Blanco form is not over yet. Would Cape Blanco have broken the Epsom course record? We’ll never know. What we know is that he hasn’t got that on his CV. Think of Dick Turpin and Canford Cliffs. I thought DTs beating of Canford in two races confirmed superiority but thats not the case.
    7) Yes, Workforce is probably over-hyped, but he’s still an awesome horse. We have to forgive him this run. But as mentioned before, he may never recover from Epsom.

    These are my thoughts

    This is what I wrote after losing an arm on Workforce after the King George. Wish I’d dug it up before this race. :?

    #320691
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    A good result for the Derby and King George form, but was Workforce not a touch fortunate? Sarafina looked to almost come down as they turned in to the straight and Gerard Mosse has worked miracles to get her in to third from what was an awful position.

    Was it an awful position?
    Workforce came from right out the back (an awful position?).
    Front two might have had a better run through, but don’t think Sarafina would have beaten either of them.

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    I remember someone rubished my theory about the slope at Epsom but can anyone make a case for him going so well on a GF surface at such an unorthadox track?

    Look, whatever about how good we think STS was, Oxx was

    extremely

    careful about the ground he ran him on. Maybe Stoute wasn’t as careful as John Oxx was. Stoute and Moore (and me! look at the horses action ffs) said the ground was too lively for him. I think he travelled well enough in the Derby but the dip did the wonders for him. The slope lessened the impact of his stride and may have helped him in his acceleration at that particular course. Its a theory at least.

    #320694
    Presto
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    When Midas Touch started tiring through the field, Sarafina got a severe check and almost fell down, might have clipped heels. She lost several lengths there. She was following Behkabad before that, and ended up coming from a long way off.

    Workforce was midfield and sneaked through a hole near the rail.

    How about that Japanese trainer, he trained El Condor Pasa to go down half a length to Montjeu, and now Nakayama Festa…

    #320702
    fivelongdays
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    When Midas Touch started tiring through the field, Sarafina got a severe check and almost fell down, might have clipped heels. She lost several lengths there. She was following Behkabad before that, and ended up coming from a long way off.

    Workforce was midfield and sneaked through a hole near the rail.

    How about that Japanese trainer, he trained El Condor Pasa to go down half a length to Montjeu, and now Nakayama Festa…

    I think we can all learn something from that – namely, that Japanese horses in the Arc can prove to be a good each way bet!

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

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