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Aidan O’Brien did actually say two week before the Foy he was going straight to the Arc.
Why did F&G miss his prep? In the past he’s sometimes needed a run to get fit. Also lost form last back end. I’d say he missed the prep because Aidan knew he wasn’t anywhere near right. Now available at 6/1 which on form looks very good value. But with Cape Blanco now seemingly a runner, wouldn’t they split their big guns if knowing F&G was A1? I am sceptical, would not be a surprise if F&G missed the race with a "slight setback". Ladbrokes (Mike Dillon’s) shorter price is a positive at the moment though.
Value Is EverythingWould not be at all surprised to see Workforce back to his best. Trainer form / virus being the likely reason of a poor run in the King George. Although a right-handed course might be another, a slight concern.
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Couldn’t have Workforce or Fame and Glory here- have laid Workforce today at 13/2, will reduce my liability on the day if he runs, which is far from certain IMO.
Be surprised if Workforce doesn’t run, Carv.
There are more gallops and racecourses next to his stable than you can shake a stick at, so to trundle him around the M25 for a racecourse gallop – on the the track that most nearly represents the shape and direction of Longchamp – suggests SMS is entirely serious about his preparation.
Have taken a rare foray into the ante-post market, on the strength of that gallop and how he performed, anyway.How anyone could back Fame and Glory or Workforce at the prices is beyond me. I have been against Fame and Glory since the Derby last year and persist in that. Never been a fan of workforce, the fact that he still has not even been confirmed to run but is still 5/1 is a joke. At the prices, Youmzain and Planteur appeal.
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How anyone could back Workforce at the prices is beyond me.
Precisely, JJM.
Why did F&G miss his prep? In the past he’s sometimes needed a run to get fit. Also lost form last back end. I’d say he missed the prep because Aidan knew he wasn’t anywhere near right. Now available at 6/1 which on form looks very good value. But with Cape Blanco now seemingly a runner, wouldn’t they split their big guns if knowing F&G was A1? I am sceptical, would not be a surprise if F&G missed the race with a "slight setback". Ladbrokes (Mike Dillon’s) shorter price is a positive at the moment though.
All change.
Fame And Glory has been backed with most firms today. Just taken the last of the 6/1 with Corals. Is lower on betfair and Ladbrokes remain short on 9/2. Cape Blanco is on the drift. The money is a sign F&G IS now showing more at home.
Value Is EverythingWhy did F&G miss his prep? In the past he’s sometimes needed a run to get fit. Also lost form last back end. I’d say he missed the prep because Aidan knew he wasn’t anywhere near right. Now available at 6/1 which on form looks very good value. But with Cape Blanco now seemingly a runner, wouldn’t they split their big guns if knowing F&G was A1? I am sceptical, would not be a surprise if F&G missed the race with a "slight setback". Ladbrokes (Mike Dillon’s) shorter price is a positive at the moment though.
All change.
Fame And Glory has been backed with most firms today. Just taken the last of the 6/1 with Corals. Is lower on betfair and Ladbrokes remain short on 9/2. Cape Blanco is on the drift. The money is a sign F&G IS now showing more at home.
Murtagh is going to ride hm thats why the market move. I’m gonna wait for the day and see the best price I can get about Cape Blanco.
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I backed Bright Horizon today for Minimum stakes in the Irish Cesarewitch just because Murtagh wasn’t on. How often do we see the second string go off a much bigger price than it should just because the stable jockey has chosen the other one. Happens all the time with Godolphin and BallydoyleTwas slightly worried about Cape Blanco but if Johnny’s riding F&G then obviously he’s better than Cape Blanco (doubtful), Cape Blanco is really a doubtful stayer of a fast run 12f with roughly a 4f straight (fairly likely) or Cape Blanco won’t run (very likely).
Workforce drifting again – surely he won’t be ready in time. They wouldn’t leave it so late to decide otherwise.
Only thing to worry Behks is Nakayama Festa IMO.
Murtagh is going to ride hm thats why the market move. I’m gonna wait for the day and see the best price I can get about Cape Blanco.
**AFTERTIMING ALERT**
I backed Bright Horizon today for Minimum stakes in the Irish Cesarewitch just because Murtagh wasn’t on. How often do we see the second string go off a much bigger price than it should just because the stable jockey has chosen the other one. Happens all the time with Godolphin and BallydoyleI agree that being a second string should not discourage anyone backing it. However, I consider 6/1 as a big value price on form, but was worried F&G might not be ready in time. The fact Murtagh has chosen F&G over CB suggests the older horse is going well at home. You’d think F&G being more a 12f horse, would not be such a good worker as CB.
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I’m not sure running Cape Blanco will do Fame and Glory any favours.
Fame and Glory’s biggest asset is he has great tactical pace and Murtagh under normal circumstances can put him anywhere he wants.
With Cape Blanco in the race everything could change. He won’t be going there as any sort of pacemaker and will run his own race. If his last race is anything to go by he’ll be right up there try and burn them off from just before the turn into the straight.
If that happens then Fame and Glory and a few others are going to have to use what little speed they have just to get to him and they then become a sitting duck for something like Cavalryman or Youmzain coming out of the clouds and beating the lot of them.
You can’t be 100% sure about Workforce if he turns up. This is such an ordinary looking Arc he’d probably be no better than even money if he hadn’t been beaten in the King George. Can’t see there being an in between with him. Either he’s a brilliant horse or an overated one and either he’ll win easily or he’ll be near pulled up.
Last season AOB tried to take the Champion Stakes with Famd and Glory after running in the Arc and it was a disaster. He may have the same thing in mind for Cape Blanco but his participation in the Arc might be apointer to St Nicholas Abbey being a lot more forward than AOB is letting on.
2nd Guessing AOB is not recommended
When it gets to the stage when you start guesssing which one is working best at home, will they both run. why is Murtagh chosing that one, does Murtagh have a choice? then it’s time to sit on the fence not throw your money at a wild guess. If the principles all run the prices won’t go away the race is far to open for that.Having watched Ballydoyle horses running in and out at the curragh over the weekend I would not back anything from the yard until some consistancy returns to their racing.I cannot remember so many short priced tyos running so poorly as this year.Which brings me back to the ..lower your voice..problem of the bug in the yard all this year.When did F&G run last? Is that the normal plan for a healthy horse preparing for the Arc ? By the way how is SNA doing? Has he recovered from the slight twitch in his back that led to giving him a rest?
F&G’s non-participation in his "prep" was a worry for me. But with the money coming for him and Murtagh choosing him over Cape Blanco, suggests Fame And Glory is fit and well. I say "suggests" because there’s still a doubt. However, if I was 100% certain it would make him (imo) a 3/1 shot. At 6/1 he’s well worth a wager to find out. 6/1’s now gone, now best 11/2 in one place, skybet. Don’t expect that to last the day.
With AOB over racing F&G last term, lost his form last back end, wasn’t that surprised had a mid-season break.
Nobody is backing F&G "because Murtagh is on board" (second guessing), it’s just a sighn of F&G’s wellbeing. Murtagh would not be aboard if they thought him "not ready".
Hope Cape Blanco drifts further, as will probably back him too on the day.
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With AOB over racing F&G last term, lost his form last back end, wasn’t that surprised had a mid-season break.
There you go again, Ginger, telling Aidan how to train his horses.
He wasn’t overraced. In the Arc he simply wasn’t good enough, and he was one-paced on the fastish ground in the 10f Champion Stakes.
Won’t be good enough this year, either.Might seem like an obvious question, but is there even a list of entries yet? If so, where?
Sorry if I’m missing the point completely.
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