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  • #11668
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    Having just watched the 9-20 at Ponty, the winner got at least a 2 if not 3 length advantage by bursting out of the stalls which allowed it to cross over from stall 10 very quickly, which if it had not burst out it could not have done.

    How the race was not void beggars belief, even John Hunt expected the race to be void, or at the very minimum an enquiry, but as is to be espected sometimes with the stewards not even an enquiry was called.

    Roll on the NH season.LOL

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    Roll on the NH season.LOL

    Where you never have horses gaining an unfair advantage at the start!

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    Roll on the NH season.LOL

    Where you never have horses gaining an unfair advantage at the start!

    The perfect response!

    #232852
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    Hence my LOL.
    You know that happens with NH racing, but the idea unless I am mistaken, is that with flat racing,the stalls are supposed to stop that unfair advantage.

    My point though is that the race should have at least been looked at by the Stewards and quite possibly have been void.

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    ……….. even John Hunt expected the race to be void, or at the very minimum an enquiry, but as is to be espected sometimes with the stewards not even an enquiry was called.

    I would be very surprised if John Hunt said any such thing as he was probably driving out of the car park at Windsor and heading off towards the M4 at 9:20 and I would be very surprised if he was doing the Ponty commentary from his car :D

    It was Mark Slater calling at Ponty

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    The "Epsom Dash" or whatever it’s called – the 5f sprint at the Derby meeting had a starter a few years back that broke early and won by a short head – now why that was allowed to stand I’ll never know…

    Zip

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    Cannot remember which horse it was but someone on here will prob know.

    #232867
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    That was a disgrace , they is no way that should have stood. Mind you i had £30 single on the second horse (Artsu) , so that may be clouding my judgement!!!!

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    The stewards called it correctly, Mr Wolf got a flyer and that’s all there was to it.

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    I think you’re wrong there yeats – if you watch the RUK replay on their website they show the head-on a good few times and the stall definitely opens a split second earlier than the others, possibly because Mr Wolf head-butted it. The horse certainly gets a slight advantage – it’s very small admitedly – but it’s enough for him to get to the rail from an outside stall.

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    Didn’t see the race myself but the RP analyst says :

    "MR WOLF, six times a course winner and beaten a whisker in this a year ago from a 1lb lower mark, anticipated the start. He barged the gates and gained over a length start, enabling him to cross over to the inside rail from in effect stall nine. Half-a-dozen lengths clear at halfway, he never looked in any danger and the old boy is clearly right back to his best with the ground to suit"

    Colin

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    In addition to the stall opening early can anyone clarify the rule regarding horses crossing over to the rail.

    I thought they had to run in a straight line from the stalls upto a certain distance (the orange poles (50 yds or something). It looked to me Mr Wolf was almost on the rail by the time he reached the orange poles.

    Admittely no interference was caused, so does that make it ok?

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    In addition to the stall opening early can anyone clarify the rule regarding horses crossing over to the rail.

    I thought they had to run in a straight line from the stalls upto a certain distance (the orange poles (50 yds or something). It looked to me Mr Wolf was almost on the rail by the time he reached the orange poles.

    Admittely no interference was caused, so does that make it ok?

    Instruction H17:-

    The HRA instruct all Riders that at those Flat race starts at which Marker poles have been placed shortly after the start, they must ride in a straight line from their draw position until reaching the Marker poles. Having reached the Marker poles Riders may move to the running rail providing that interference does not result. However, the Instruction will not apply to those horses at the rear of the field which:

    a) have dwelt of their own accord;
    b) have been restrained with a view to covering them up.

    Any Rider who rides off a straight line before he reaches the Marker poles will be subject to disciplinary action even if no interference is caused because the HRA regard such instances as improper riding. If interference takes place Riders are warned that if they are found to be in breach they will be disciplined under both Rule 153 and this Instruction. Furthermore, Owners or Trainers who give instructions to their Riders which if obeyed could or would lead to a violation of this Instruction will also be subject to disciplinary action.

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    If the Stewards did take a look it is one that would not have been announced and with it being the last race then details would probaly have come out after the press had gone home. If there was an enquiry then the details will appear on the BHA website, probably tomorrow.

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    The RP race-reader obviously had a few pound on Dickie Le Davoir in the 8:50 because he is still so incensed that the horse had to jump a cone that he mentions it again in the race report for the 9:20!

    8:50 http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result … &popup=yes

    9:20 http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result … &popup=yes

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    DB, I was earwigging like a good un on Sunday afternoon and I overheard JA Harris tell RA Harris that Dickie La Davoir was a "good thing" in this race. I didn’t fancy it myself from that horror draw but I notebooked the comment.

    Last nights performance suggests "Dickie" is possibly the best weighted handicap sprinter in the country so I think we’ll all be earning a crust off this one on the 21st June at a track he clearly enjoys.

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    According to the ‘Stewards Room’ on the BHA website:

    The Stewards wished to hold an enquiry under Instruction H17 entitled ‘Jockeys riding to their draw’, but were unable to do so as Tony Hamilton had left the course. The enquiry was adjourned until the next meeting.

    That must have been a world record quick get away. What did he do put his clothes on over his skills? :D

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    The Stewards’ was held yesterday and a One-Day Ban resulted:

    The Stewards held an adjourned enquiry and called before them Tony Hamilton, the rider of the winner, MR WOLF, and enquired into the reason why he appeared not to keep straight to the marker poles. Having heard his evidence and viewed a video recording of the start, the Stewards found the rider to be in breach of H17, headed “Jockeys Riding to their Draw” and suspended him for one day as follows: Sunday, 5 July.


    BHA Website – Stewards Room

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