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Hello all,
If you haven’t already read it on the Weatherbys Chase website, some of you may appreciate this heads-up regarding the last ever sale of back issues of the Hunter Chases & Point-to-Pointers annual (Mackenzie and Harris as is). What’s not sold after a week on Friday will be pulped, whereafter you’ll have to rely on second-hand booksellers for those series gaps!
HTH,
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“Weatherbys Chase have announced an extension to the sale offer on back issues of the Point-to-Pointers & Hunter Chasers Annuals.
Now in its 51st Edition, the ever-popular Mackenzie & Harris Hunter Chasers & Point-to-Pointers Annual, the flagship publication of Weatherbys Chase, continues to be essential reading for Point-to-Point participants and enthusiasts alike.
Providing full Results for whole seasons as well as honest and insightful appraisals of each horse to have run that year, the Annual has become a collector’s item and an invaluable form tool; it is a unique keepsake for anyone who has raced their horse between the flags.
Due to the high amount of interest generated by the limited time-only initial sale, the opportunity to add to your collection has been extended to run until the end of the 2009/10 Point-to-Point season.
All available Annuals (up to and including 2009, not including current 2010 edition) can be ordered for just £15 (inclusive of Postage & Packaging in Great Britain for single book orders only; see below for details); subject to availability, whilst stocks last.
After the sale, all excess stock of the Back Issues are due to be pulped due to storage limitations, so this may be your last chance to purchase copies of any edition of the Annual that your collection is missing.
To enquire about availability, please call the Weatherbys Chase Orders Line direct on 01933 304792.
Please note that the following editions are not available: 1960 to 1964, 1966, 1967, 1978, 1983, 1986 & 1987.
(Please note that price is inclusive of 2nd Class Post for single book orders only; multiple book orders, or special delivery requirements, may incur extra cost. Offer ends Friday, 11th June 2010.)”
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Thanks for this – I think I’ve got the complete set but will check.
Why are they going to pulp them? Surely better to offload to a racing bookseller as a job lot – what a waste.
Thanks for this – I think I’ve got the complete set but will check.
Why are they going to pulp them? Surely better to offload to a racing bookseller as a job lot – what a waste.
That’s what I was thinking. Better to sell them at a fiver each than to pulp them?
Makes no sense to me, even at £15 each it is still quite expensive for what is just an out of date stats book. Just like their 2010 desk diary at the bargain price of 23.50 lolI think damning a stats book for being out of date is like moaning that water is wet, to be honest – irrefutably true, but no less unfair for that.
I’d prefer them to be thought of as the historical documents they essentially are. And they are more than just page after page of results, of course, with the trademark honest / withering write-ups of every horse to perform that season taking up a goodly portion of the publication.
Per the pulping question, I’d have to profess no knowledge of the thinking behind the decision (beyond one of storage limitations), or, for that matter, whether any secondhand booksellers were approached before or since the decision was made. I wouldn’t mind betting the likes of Manchester’s reputed racing book specialist Browzers expressed an interest in securing some copies, whether that interest ultimately went any further or not.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
You should make them a bulk offer for however many are left GC
If they’re going to be pulped I’d guess they’d accept beans rather than scores
I’ve seen the occasional M&H and whilst I have no particular interest in them myself they strike me as books that could command a reasonable if not significant value in years to come
There is value in the delightful prose alone, even if you don’t know your Hunters from your Pointers
Try ‘here’s a tenner’ and negotiate from there
I think damning a stats book for being out of date is like moaning that water is wet, to be honest – irrefutably true, but no less unfair for that.
I’d prefer them to be thought of as the historical documents they essentially are. And they are more than just page after page of results, of course, with the trademark honest / withering write-ups of every horse to perform that season taking up a goodly portion of the publication.
Per the pulping question, I’d have to profess no knowledge of the thinking behind the decision, or, for that matter, whether any secondhand booksellers were approached before or since the decision was made. I wouldn’t mind betting the likes of Manchester’s reputed racing book specialist Browzers expressed an interest in securing some copies, whether that interest ultimately went any further or not.
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I think you have me wrong GC. I wasn’t bemoaning stats books per se, in fact I have some Profile trainers and racecourses stats books myself and they still hold their ground.
I was merely questioning the wisdom behind asking £15, which isn’t really a lowly enough sum to entice the average Joe to buy on impulse, for a stats book that will probably be retired to a bookshelf after a cursory glance,or
they get recycled. I just can’t imagine how the latter is a better option than taking a nominal sum ‘to clear’ just to get rid. No more than it makes sense to ask for nearly 25 notes for an out of date diary.
Will be calling up on Monday for the last edition that’s going cheap – need the standard times and the like from them
Any idea how many they’ve got?
Probably more than I can make a job lot for, alas, despite Drone’s kind and inspired suggestion.
Print runs have varied a bit during the Annual’s history, with a couple of the 1980s volumes having been unavailable for several years now (and no spares found prior to the launch of this exercise) whilst older issues remained available. 1983 I think is one such example.
Anecdotally, I plugged my collection gaps (as far as possible with what remained) two months ago, and there were still a lot of most of the 1990s volumes left in particular. It’s possible that remains the case.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
I was merely questioning the wisdom behind asking £15, which isn’t really a lowly enough sum to entice the average Joe to buy on impulse, for a stats book that will probably be retired to a bookshelf after a cursory glance,
or
they get recycled. I just can’t imagine how the latter is a better option than taking a nominal sum ‘to clear’ just to get rid.
Noted with thanks, RD. Maybe the view is taken that even a £15 asking price still constitutes a discount of 66% or thereabouts on the newer editions in particular, and that the P&P costs of what have become increasingly weighty tomes may not necessarily make it worthwhile letting them go for buttons.
With my chartered librarian’s hat on, though, I would certainly regard the loss of any surplus volumes as a shame, and hope that as many books as possible are sold, saved and / or kept in circulation by whatever means.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Even my close family don’t know about the gaps in my Mackenzie and Harris collection. It’s not something you readily admit to.
Are these Weatherby’s genuine punters or are they simply buying them here for a couple of quid here and arbing us?
I think damning a stats book for being out of date is like moaning that water is wet, to be honest – irrefutably true, but no less unfair for that.
I’d prefer them to be thought of as the historical documents they essentially are. And they are more than just page after page of results, of course, with the trademark honest / withering write-ups of every horse to perform that season taking up a goodly portion of the publication.
Per the pulping question, I’d have to profess no knowledge of the thinking behind the decision (beyond one of storage limitations), or, for that matter, whether any secondhand booksellers were approached before or since the decision was made. I wouldn’t mind betting the likes of Manchester’s reputed racing book specialist Browzers expressed an interest in securing some copies, whether that interest ultimately went any further or not.
gc
Jeremy The Rutland Bookshop in Uppingham would be a good source for them as well. I know Edward Baines the proprietor and he usually has a few on his Burghley stand. He also has a good selection of other racing books, so if you are in that area of the country when he is open, pop in his shop is close to the centre of that small and pretty market town, one of whose candidates for the parish council at one time was a fella called Bob Bell
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
My connection to TRF crashed during posting – looks like the message has been output three times. Oops! Perhaps Corm could delete the two surplus, please? Ta.
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