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September 12, 2016 at 22:01 #1263261
Many will have heard of Phar Lap. For those who haven’t, here’s a summary from Wikipedia:
Phar Lap (4 October 1926 – 5 April 1932) was a champion Thoroughbred racehorse whose achievements captured the public’s imagination during the early years of the Great Depression. Foaled in New Zealand,[3] he was trained and raced in Australia by Harry Telford.[4] Phar Lap dominated Australian racing during a distinguished career, winning a Melbourne Cup, two Cox Plates, an AJC Derby, and 19 other weight for age races.[5][6] He then won the Agua Caliente Handicap in Tijuana, Mexico, in track-record time in his final race.[7] After a sudden and mysterious illness, Phar Lap died in 1932. At the time, he was the third highest stakes-winner in the world
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We talk often about a horse’s engine, without having a suitable definition of the engine. Given the job the heart does, and for lack of anything more tangible, I’ll settle on the heart for the Engine. I read that Arkle had a bigger than usual heart. Wasn’t Sprinter Sacre’s heart also unusually large when they checked him for that fibrillation problem?
In the McIlvanney book I’m reading he mentioned that Phar Lap’s heart weighed 14 lbs, twice the size of the normal equine heart. I thought that this fact nicely concluded the argument on engines but I read this on Wikipedia:
However, the author and film maker Peter Luck is convinced the heart is a fake. In Luck’s 1979 television series This Fabulous Century, the daughter of Dr Walker Neilson, the government veterinarian who performed the first post-mortem on Phar Lap, says her father told her the heart was necessarily cut to pieces during the autopsy, and the heart on display is that of a draught horse.
Still, it makes sense, to me, at least, that the heart is the key component of the ‘engine’. Heart size measurement – now there’s an edge.
September 13, 2016 at 10:12 #1263300Exactly, Steeplechasing, the advantage lyes in the large-heart-X-chromosone, but large hindquarters normally qualify for having a large engine as well. Don’t they?
More about the topic, search “The X Factor: What It Is & How To Find It”
I’ve read a lot about the large X as well as translate a couple of articles to Danish 🙂Best Wishes
SilkSeptember 13, 2016 at 10:45 #1263305Exactly, Steeplechasing, the advantage lyes in the large-heart-X-chromosone, but large hindquarters normally qualify for having a large engine as well. Don’t they?
More about the topic, search “The X Factor: What It Is & How To Find It”
I’ve read a lot about the large X as well as translate a couple of articles to DanishSorry, do not use the search frase x factor, it is all about singing…
but here is a couple of good links
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/jun/22/horse-breeding-genetics-thoroughbreds-racing-dna
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/triple-crown-bound-horse-breeders-start-to-look-to-genetics/
And this one, where the X-large heart theory is not supported as a must have http://www.performancegenetics.com/the-selection-processBest Wishes
SilkSeptember 13, 2016 at 12:29 #1263309Thanks, KS. I’ll take a look at these
September 13, 2016 at 19:21 #1263333September 13, 2016 at 20:41 #1263339Thanks, KS. Fascinating reading and the fact that it adds solid evidence to something that was little more than a theory on my part, is welcome.
I wonder how Frankel will fare or if his heart size has been measured?
To learn that Secretariat had a heart weight (22lbs) almost 3 times that of the normal thoroughbred is astonishing as a one-off ‘factoid’ in itself, but it also tells us why he was capable of such phenomenal performances.
September 13, 2016 at 21:05 #1263345Not sure about Phar Lap but I did hear Jim McGrath on Channel 4 describing John Gosden’s Foundation as having a heart “the size of a pea”.
Whether that was garden or marrowfat we were not informed.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 14, 2016 at 19:27 #1263475Youre welcome Steeplechasing, I believe that is was Secretariats ability to pump so much oxygen filled blood around, that made it possible for him to run the last 6 furlongs faster than record times for that distance in the Belmont Stakes over 12 furlongs in 2:24:00. A record that still stands today.
Watch his Belmont again, it is unbelievable!
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SilkSeptember 14, 2016 at 21:26 #1263518A riveting performance no matter how often you watch it. To see Sham fade so badly so far out, going backwards while Secretariat galloped unrelentingly on, offers some idea of the power he was putting out that day. From what I can find, Sham was also a high class animal; indeed, he had beaten Secretariat in a previous race.
Coincidentally, Sham also had a huge heart – weighed at 18lbs after his autopsy.
September 14, 2016 at 23:09 #1263542Yes Sham finished ahead of Secretariat in the Wood Memorial, but Sham didn’t win the race, he finished 2nd and Big Red 3rd (by jockey misjudgement imo)
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SilkSeptember 14, 2016 at 23:44 #1263549The Scientific American link takes us back to the GG and the ‘speed gene’ thread of earlier in the summer. I think of ‘engine’ in terms of cardiovascular system, so a combination of lungs, heart and VO2 max and a body’s capacity to work. This runs across humans and equines – and some of the most advanced stuff on this is on the various cycling forums (think all the stuff on whether Froome could put out that kind of wattage day in day out in the TdF without ‘assistance’). With horses, it’s also important to factor in that the power comes from the back end (i.e. the hind quarters), so a horse that is ‘weak behind’ is never going to put out as much power. Stride length is also important. When you look at a horse like Frankel what you see is a massive stride length (a bit like Bolt and Farah – they take 1 stride for everyone else’s 2!), a great big back end on him and – I would bet – a great cardiovascular system, which I do think he is passing on. So, I’d say it’s the combination of all that that made him the racehorse that he was, rather than heart alone.
Interesting bit in that final link from KS on stayers and heart size – I do remember AOB talking about Yeats as having a massive heart on him.
September 15, 2016 at 02:32 #1263556Sorry about the first links, something went amiss. It has been ten years since i studied the subject on the net and links had changed variously.
a new link, from 2015 http://www.horseracingnation.com/blogs/pedigree_power/Kentucky_Derby_2015_The_X_Factor_123Best Wishes
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