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  • #27404
    msercs
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    Hello

    Does anybody know the rules in respect of how a horse qualifies for this?

    I know they have the qualifiers at different meetings but what guarantees a horse a run?

    I’ve spotted a potential winner but not sure?

    Thank you in advance.

    Martin

    #502383
    Ricco
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    At a guess I think it must often come down to the 24 highest rated horses. I suppose there must be a guaranteed place for horses finishing in the first 3 (as there are 8 qualis and 24 spots), but it has to be quite tumultuous with horses being withdrawn and running in other races etc.

    For example I know Lie Forrit came 6th or 7th in his qualifier last year, but got a spot in the final, so there’s obviously other criteria to make up the numbers.

    I imagine a horse that has run in a qualifier and is rated 140+ is pretty much guaranteed a spot if they wanted one?

    #502386
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    6 races in GB, 1 in Ireland, 1 in France. If you finish in the first 8 home, you can run at Cheltenham – dependent on weights.

    #502394
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    One of my favorite races at The Festival…….love watching the qualifiers too, and trying to find a few clues.

    Decent qualifier at Huntingdon tomorrow, and I hope the majority stand their ground.

    Already bet

    Sybarite

    at 25’s for Cheltenham, and he’d be my main hope, but there will be more no doubt, with the likes of

    Trustan Times

    ,

    Ely Brown

    ,

    Top Wood

    , and

    Imperial Leader

    all on the radar.

    They weren’t on the list before, but interesting to see

    Aubusson

    , and especially

    Cantlow

    get an entry.

    #503787
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    I’m on

    Sybarite

    at 20/1 for this,I think

    Big Easy

    at 10/1 is a player and a horse I have backed for next weeks Betfair hurdle who obviously wont be going over 2m again is

    Dawalan

    ,he ran a typical ‘Pertemps’ trial today and I couldn’t resist the 12/1 with Bet365 straight after.

    #503793
    msercs
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    Twice taken by the run of edeymi now, looks like a typical tony martin plot to me

    Martin

    #503822
    Avatar photoShack1
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    Mydor ran well again today, guess he’s a bit low in the ratings to get in?

    #503858
    Avatar photoFran the man
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    Twice taken by the run of edeymi now, looks like a typical tony martin plot to me

    Martin

    It was eyecatching yesterday wasn’t it :lol: Tony’ll give the jockey an earful for making it so blatant,that 4th place books him his ticket though so job done.

    #503859
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    Edeymi has a bit of work to do to actually get in the race on his current rating if previous years are anything to go by. I agree it was a very eye-catching run, but his mark and jockey booking hint that he might have another crack at the Martin Pipe instead.

    #503860
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    Mydor ran well again today, guess he’s a bit low in the ratings to get in?

    He is a bit low alright,looked a bit soft to me yesterday anyway,what about the boy that beat him Lean Araig,he jumps nicely and battles,he should get in now as i’d say he’ll be put up to about 132/3 at least and then UK handicapper surely put him up another 3 or 4 as usual.The Mc Kiernan yard had a tough season last season with a virus so would be nice to see him go and run well.

    #503862
    Avatar photoFran the man
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    Edeymi has a bit of work to do to actually get in the race on his current rating if previous years are anything to go by. I agree it was a very eye-catching run, but his mark and jockey booking hint that he might have another crack at the Martin Pipe instead.

    Ran off 135 yesterday,should have a decent chance of getting in off that.

    #503878
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    135 was the bottom-weight last year in a race rather disrupted by the presence of Fingal Bay. In several of the last 10 years, 135 wouldn’t have been enough to get in.

    It’ll be a very tight one.

    #503895
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    Twice taken by the run of edeymi now, looks like a typical tony martin plot to me

    Martin

    It was eyecatching yesterday wasn’t it :lol: Tony’ll give the jockey an earful for making it so blatant,that 4th place books him his ticket though so job done.

    135 was the lowest rated last year. Wouldn’t call it job done yet.

    #503923
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    As well as Edeymi, I was quite taken by the run of Run Ructions Run yesterday, got outpaced before staying on to some purpose.

    #750753
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    At Haydock tomorrow, I’ll be keeping a close eye on Sunnyhill Boy, and especially Stonebrook.

    Stonebrook looks the right type, but at work just now and can’t confirm, but I’m sure his current rating wouldn’t get him in, so he might be worth a bet tomorrow.

    #750788
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    Stonebrook is 16/1 for tomorrow.
    He’s a good horse only beaten 23l by Faugheen is top form. :wink:
    Up in trip should suit but you never know, would first time out be a negative?.
    He’s done little wrong to date and was smashed off the boards in his last effort last season at Aintree and was eased quickly after any chance although remote had gone after being hampered. Certainly one to keep a close eye on. I think our forum friend roonaldo was all over him as a horse for the future with his inside dealings. :twisted:

    Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026

    #750822
    Avatar photoThe Young Fella
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    I love Stonebrook too. Just hoping he hasn’t been ‘McCained’ as I expected he would go chasing this year to maintain that sexy handicap mark for something more prestigious than the Pertemps over bigger obstacles.

    Picking apart the jockey bookings, McCoy has declined to waste down to 10-06 for Stonebrook despite going up to Haydock for At Fishers Cross in favour of some decent rides for JP at Ascot. He didn’t pick Sunnyhillboy (ground worries) or Jonjo’s Kelvingrove either, but I am very much taken by Kelvingrove.

    He has been ridden three times by Maurice Linehan and carries 10-05 here, so maybe McCoy’s ‘choice’ doesn’t detract from his chance. As a son of Hurricane Run, this horse should love the soft ground and will relish his first go at three miles. An impressive win is needed to make the cut for the Pertemps, but here’s hoping at 12/1.

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