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- April 11, 2025 at 18:43 #1726911
Fatal fall at Ayr today
April 11, 2025 at 19:04 #1726912Oh no – I’ve been waiting for news – if they announced it on Racing UK I missed it. I feared the worst as it was horrible … nothing went up on Racing Post results – not for any of the non-finishers for ages, then they went up it said heavy fall … now I see fatal … so sad for all concerned …
April 11, 2025 at 19:09 #1726914Well Nico, looked very bad on that one. The horse blundered very badly and emptied four out, just like in the previous three starts where he was pulled up twice before the 2nd last. He asked the horse to jump the ditch, when it had no momentum at all and tookm a tired looking fall on its neck.
Nico is riding very poorly this season, like never before. Apart from Cheltenham he is only 1 from his last 11 rides with “penalty kick” Jonbon being the only winner.
I’d say he’s lacking confidence and the stable the usual form. Can’t be too enthusiastic if they took CH to IRE this month.RIP to Persian Time
April 11, 2025 at 21:17 #1726928Ex Ruby Light I’m shocked & saddened to read your write up on the loss of Persian Time. Even more so, after the Grand National, & the loss of another horse being asked to carry on when it had run it’s race RIP Persian Time 😥🌹
April 11, 2025 at 23:40 #1726948Poor Persian Time 😪
He certainly didn’t deserve to be treated like that.Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...April 12, 2025 at 01:10 #1726958I find fatalities just as upsetting as other posters, and strongly support looking at their causes and trying to reduce them, but there doesn’t always have to be someone to blame.
The criticism of the jockey seems harsh again to me here. It’s a risky activity where fatalities will always sadly happen. It is the nature of the sport.
Persian Time was leading five out, made a bad mistake 4 out and was fading when he fell with tragic consequences 3 out. He was still in touch with the body of the field at the time of his fall and wasn’t tailed off. I expect he’d have been pulled up after 3 out, but believe this is again a situation where it is understandable why De Boinville had not yet done so.
The fact that this time there was a tragic outcome does not mean De Boinville was asking any more of his mount than jockeys regularly ask of their mounts every day. Tragically Persian Time lost his life; that’s what happens occasionally when jockeys are having to make quick decisions in risky situations.
RIP Persian Time
April 12, 2025 at 04:37 #1726959Good point Marlingford, but you have to take into account who you are dealing with, a master of blame, accusation and most of all, aftertiming.
April 12, 2025 at 09:39 #1726974Trainer was stating heart attack as he jumped.
April 19, 2025 at 13:47 #1727666RubyL. If you haven’t got anything constructive to say, you really should stop posting after racing fatalities. You are not a trainer, owner or jockey. Your skewed takes from the comfort of your tv are getting tiresome………
April 19, 2025 at 18:53 #1727690Well, I think my post was very constructive. As a result Nico’s four mounts the very next day were all virtually pulled up after the chances had gone once they approached the final 2-3 furlongs.
Ideal Des Bordes Took keen hold, prominent, briefly led 2nd, lost position 4 out, not fluent 3 out, weakened quickly 2 out, tailed off
Under Control Towards rear, weakened after 3 out (usual 4 out), detached after 3 out (usual 4 out), pulled up before 2 out (usual 3 out)
Wiseguy Never better than midfield, pulled up before 2 out
Sutherland Midfield, took keen hold early, outpaced 4f out, rallied 2f out, weakened final furlong
This just confirms Nico was riding no-hoppers the entire meeting and did the sensitive the day after Persian Time lost his life.
Oh and by the way, I can criticize any jockey at any time. They are no scientists or anything similar and just like everyone else in day to day life always prone to mistakes. Don’t tell me what to say, okay?
April 21, 2025 at 04:34 #1727795Many of your comments are not at all constructive Ruby, they are riddled with after-timing, criticism, blame and negativity.
You may not be aware, but all horses are different and the fact that de Boinville pulled up three horses the day after riding one that was a fatality, means nothing. What de Boinville felt, as a very experienced rider, was probably very different for each.
Then again, perhaps he read your very inciteful comments on here and took heed of them when riding the next day.
You may wish to consider an occupation as a ‘jockey coach’ and supplement that as a ‘trainer coach’ and why not make it a full house and offer your services as an ‘owners advisor’, because you do seem to be very experienced with all three……..after an event.
April 21, 2025 at 07:56 #1727798Name escapes me maybe Vagog or similar , was staying hurdler 90s maybe , he was under pump from moment tapes went up but won a lot of races , sort horse has you looking in bin for screwed up ticket.
If you watch the jumps you going to see deaths , thats as simple as that , racing has done all it can do imho . Sad but a fact non the less .
I dont enjoy it as much as i used to , i find day to day stuff pretty boring now and enjoy flat more , used to be other way round , the likes Jonbon never bores me though , if it went id be over it quickly but i hope it prospers .April 21, 2025 at 09:01 #1727803I’m afraid that, after over six decades of loving NH racing I no longer get any pleasure from watching it and can’t actually justify doing so, either. It does help a bit knowing that other people find the fatalities difficult and feel the need to criticise when they think a horse has been let down by its connections. I feel totally numb after yesterday and don’t know where I’m going to go from here. It takes me back to the first horse I saw lose it’s life on a racetrack; Kingsmill at Aintree. I decided that day that I either had to walk away from the sport or accept that fatalities happen. I chose the latter and for the nearly forty years it has been a huge part of my life.
April 21, 2025 at 10:09 #1727808Moehat, I’m finding myself in a similar situation to you at the moment as I’ve found the recent run of fatalities very difficult, especially those at the Scottish National meeting. I suspect when the new Jumps season starts to get going in the autumn my interest will be rekindled as this isn’t the first time I’ve been through such a spell, but we shall see.
There are occasions where I think criticism of connections who have not looked after their horse properly is appropriate, but such clear situations are fortunately rare. I find the regular accusations made about connections on these memorial pages upsetting and not at all comforting. They imply that those involved in the sport are uncaring and reckless which I don’t think is an accurate reflection in most cases.
I do wonder if sometimes people are keen to find and call out “blame” from a sense of their own guilt at following the sport. Fatalities are unavoidable and I think that often the only people to blame for them are all of us collectively who support its continued existence. Each one of us has to make a personal decision about whether we view the level of risk involved as acceptable, but the regular blaming of individual connections and jockeys is deeply unfair in my view.
April 21, 2025 at 10:18 #1727809duplicate post
April 21, 2025 at 10:48 #1727813The fatality rate over jumps did increase slightly in 2024 but it is still low:
Personally I believe it is still within the acceptable parameters of risk. A ban on jump racing would be far worse for the horse population.
April 21, 2025 at 11:34 #1727818I agree with you CAS, though suspect it is something I will always struggle with from time to time.
It’s difficult when you see a succession of horrible incidents, or when you hear of the passing of a familiar name whose career you have enjoyed.
Emotions can easily cloud a more rational analysis. That’s why I try not to be too critical of anyone on these threads even though I think it is worth voicing disagreement with their views sometimes.
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