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Noticed that this chap was in the news and thought I’d run him by you guys and see what you thought of him? He’s obviously an exceptional professional who’s surrounded by quite a bit of mystery. Most of us have read his book but are we anymore familiar with his ways than what we were before? And what methods do you think he uses? People are gunna say pure hard work by studying for so many hours or being a genius or having an excellent mathematical mind. I mean hell a lot of people on here are very good at maths but they haven’t won 10 t0 15 million pounds; I know from his book he finds underrated horses and works on pace and weight in a mathematical way but again these are all easily achievable imo.
Be interesting to know some of your thoughts or whether you know him personally or know a bit more than what he put in his book?
Thanks,
Sassoon
Like many of these ‘pro punters’, I think he is a little bit overrated. He has built this aura to create a reputation with the mugs – you have to wonder: if he has been so successful, why the aggressive marketing campaign behind his expensive books? I’m always suspicious of any supposed genius who needs to make a quick buck like that.
I also know one of Veitch’s “putter-onners”. Much of it is pure filth with an inbuilt edge – bad each-way in particular. Again, why mess around with that sort of stuff if you’re supposedly crushing the bookmakers straight? It doesn’t add up and I suspect he has hoodwinked many.
Whatever about being a mathematical genius, I’d imagine having inside information on a once raced maiden helps.
Alright chaps,
Hahaha that would certainly help Cav, and I feel there might’ve been more than one occasion reading between the lines.
Which other pro punters do you think are overrated? I feel as thought there are a lot of talented individuals out there mate but I feel bankroll is very important; what’s the point in having ability if you don’t have a few grand behind you? Everyone has brutal runs and gets pipped by the proverbial.
SO you think he hasn’t been successful or he’s ran out of money and whacked the book out to make a buck? And what do you mean by pure filth? Brutal picks?
Cheers,
Sassoon
I also know one of Veitch’s “putter-onners”. Much of it is pure filth with an inbuilt edge – bad each-way in particular. Again, why mess around with that sort of stuff if you’re supposedly crushing the bookmakers straight? It doesn’t add up and I suspect he has hoodwinked many.
“Pure filth”
Term used by traders in the gambling business to describe any person who consistently outsmarts them.
LOL right Joe – we’re really being ‘outsmarted’ if you’ve got a great card of inside info and want to bet the 2nd fav e/w in the Champion Hurdle. That does take a massive IQ and an Oxbridge Maths degree.
Father Dougal would win if allowed to run wild with that sort of business.
Hahahaha that’s fair enough chaps, no doubt he was receiving info, not quite sure how he was getting it though tbh. No offence but doesn’t strike me as being a particularly charismatic individual which is often required to get to know people in Newmarket etc. I feel as though he had quite a bit of money to bet with and used pace and speed techniques and a lot of hard work to get to the conclusions he needed to get to. Overall if it’s true that he was between 17 and 18 percent roi then that’s solid playing especially at the fat stakes he was using.
Out of interest – what do you guys think would be a ‘good’ roi and what would be an ‘excellent’ roi?
Cheers,
Sassels
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