October 6, 2006 at 14:01 #3113betlargeParticipant
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Notice that Eddery has saddled just three winners in his first term, his last in a Wolves seller at the beginning of June.
Surprising as I can’t imagine there are many people on the planet who know more about the workings of a thoroughbred than him. He entered into the game in quite a blaze of advertising and publicity, too.
Mind, Martin Pipe was on the box the other day recounting the purchase of his first horse for a few quid – "I didn’t have a clue how to train a racehorse". I suppose you have to stick with it until things turn around. Or the money runs out.
MikeOctober 6, 2006 at 14:38 #78920cormack15Keymaster
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It’s a bit like footballers entering management – some of them are cut out for it and others aren’t. Training requires a different skill set and often requires managerial and leadership qualities which jockeys are often untrained and inexperienced in.
Top jocks who also made it to the top as trainers – list anyone?October 6, 2006 at 14:43 #78921davidjohnsonMember
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Sir Gordon RichardsOctober 6, 2006 at 15:32 #78922Lovely LadyMember
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Fred Winter was rather good at both.October 6, 2006 at 16:01 #78923LingfieldMember
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Quote: from cormack15 on 3:38 pm on Oct. 6, 2006[br]It’s a bit like footballers entering management – some of them are cut out for it and others aren’t. Training requires a different skill set and often requires managerial and leadership qualities which jockeys are often untrained and inexperienced in.
Top jocks who also made it to the top as trainers – list anyone?<br>
There are always exceptions but I know where you’re coming from.<br>People like Piggott and Francome didn’t last (for different reasons!)October 6, 2006 at 16:56 #78924DroneParticipant
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Seem to recall in the years leading up to Eddery’s retirement he was pretty insistant he had no interest in training so it’s a somewhat surprising volte-face.
Cormack makes a good point concerning the "managerial and leadership qualities" a succesful trainer may need and Pat has long struck me as being anything but a ‘people person’ as well as being an inherently shy guy content to knuckle down and do his own thing but uncomfortable when the media spotlight turns his way. Not dissimilar to Piggott in that respect.
On the other hand that genial and peerless horseman Steve Cauthen would have made a top-notch trainer IMO.October 6, 2006 at 17:59 #78925yeatsParticipant
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I would have thought age was a significant factor in their lack of success, flat jockeys are usually in their early fifties when retiring from the saddle, more than twice the age the likes of Stoute, Cecil, Dunlop & Co. were when getting their licence. Some won’t even bother at that age. Jump jockeys retire much earlier hence their greater success as trainers.October 6, 2006 at 18:32 #78926VenusianParticipant
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Also, jump jockeys tend to be more closely involved with the training side of things than their flat colleagues, and so tend to pick up more traing know-how during their riding careers.
Sir Gordon Richards did ok as a trainer, though obviously with less success than as a jockey (how could he?), and Doug Smith started off well but the bottle soon took its grip.October 6, 2006 at 18:57 #78927bimbleParticipant
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<br> Walter Swinburn seems to be producing the goods with <br> 16 winners , including the John Smith ‘ s Cup at York , to his <br> name this turf flat season , amassing over Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ 260,000 in <br> win prize money . Of course he has the guiding hand of <br> father-in-law Peter Harris behind him so only time will tell .
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