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Maybe Amir Khan should fight under the ring nickname of ‘Safety First’
We knew he’d have to be handled carefully
, but this is just ridiculous – the records of Salita’s last six opponents make somewhat grim reading.125 wins, 67 losses, 43 by KO.
The last two opponents Salita KO’d had jointly been KO’d 19 times in 25 losses.
Salita has been a scheduled 12 rounds only once.
God help boxing when the public os offered dross like this.
Maybe Amir Khan should fight under the ring nickname of ‘Safety First’
We knew he’d have to be handled carefully
, but this is just ridiculous – the records of Salita’s last six opponents make somewhat grim reading.125 wins, 67 losses, 43 by KO.
The last two opponents Salita KO’d had jointly been KO’d 19 times in 25 losses.
Salita has been a scheduled 12 rounds only once.
God help boxing when the public os offered dross like this.
Kahn’s an accident waiting to happen, and Warren knows it. His win over Kotelnik (spell?) was like watching russian roulette in the latter rounds. Once he goes in with anything with half a dig, he’ll be gone.
Once he goes in with anything with half a dig, he’ll be gone.
That’s true, but he never will.
Sadly, with the state boxing is in he could probably win titles against powder-puff punchers at another couple of weights if moved carefully – thus attaining the ‘all-time great’ tag
Frank Warren really is very good at that.
Pacquiao will easily beat Cotto and he will be the one to finally silence Mayweather. The guy has phenomenal speed and if you’re looking for comparrisons look what he did to Hatton compared to Mayweather.
As for Amir Khan – agree with others he’s best taking the soft option a puncher will destroy him.
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That’s about the worst use of collateral form I’ve ever seen, Ian – Hatton set himself up for Pacquiao, having been boxed senseless by Mayweather beforehand (he may have lasted until the ninth round, but Floyd was dancing around him for much of it and could have finished him whenever he felt like it after the fourth).
That’s about the worst use of collateral form I’ve ever seen, Ian – Hatton set himself up for Pacquiao, having been boxed senseless by Mayweather beforehand (he may have lasted until the ninth round, but Floyd was dancing around him for much of it and could have finished him whenever he felt like it after the fourth).
Idon’t see it that way at all. Hatton wasn’t given chance by the referee to fight his usual fight against Mayweather but nevertheless he at least made a fight of it early on before running out of steam as he tends to nowadays then Mayweather toyed with him. Pacquiao on the other hand treated Hatton with contempt.
To be fair, I think Hatton had considerable less fight in him by the time he met Paquiao. I certainly wouldn’t use him as a yardstick against those two.
I’ve also very strong reason to believe that Hatton was, let’s just say,
up to no good
about four months prior to the Paquiao bout. It wasn’t Guinness or chines food either.
FMj effectively finished Hatton’s career at the top table – he beat everything out of Hatton that night, therefore I don’t believe Pacman’s disposal of a terminally-declined Hatton is a credible formline.
I like the little video capture of the FMj-Marquez fight.
Though I don’t think Manny will be missing byanything like
that much……..
While it’s safe to say Mayweather took the fight out Hatton befor he [Hatton] met Paquiao – we have every reason to believe that De la Hoya was just as ready for Paquiao and remains the only decent yardstick and was destroyed by Pacman. If we rated boxers the same way we do horses, Paquiao would be clear on that performance IMO.
ODLH sweated down to 145 for that fight – his lightest in seven years, and was overwhelmed by speed, not power.
You simply can’t analyse boxing form in the same way you do a horse race.
Styles make fights and some fighters struggle against inferior opposition due to a clash of styles.
Mayweather is a stylish fighter who was never going to look great against a brawler like Hatton.
That fight left a mental scar on Hatton and those ‘demons’ surfaced in the Pac-Man fight. He knew he couldn’t beat Manny before the fight, which is why he reverted to his old ‘gung-ho’ style so quickly.
He had no faith in his ability to adapt.
Mayweather is in a different league to Pacquiao, in my opinion. The difference is Pacquiao does get caught, Mayweather seldomly.
You can’t knock out what can’t be hit and that’s the only way Pac-Man can beat the Pretty Boy, who is one of the greatest tactictions in history and this fight will motivate him, quite possibly beyond what we’ve seen so far.
Pacquiao has to defeat Cotto first and the outcome of that fight isn’t a foregone conclusion.
On the subject of Amir Khan. I was never convinced after he got knocked down by journeymen during the embryonic stages of his career.
If shots from that calibre of opposition stunned him, what was going to happen when he came up against a world class puncher?
What really irritated me was the criticism of his trainer at the time, who suggested the fight.
The general concensus was that Khan should never have been exposed to that kind of fighter at that stage of his career.
Another way of saying ‘We should have kept the hype machine ticking over longer before he got destroyed’.
That fight was a blessing in disguise because it highlighted his limitations at that level. If he faced Prescott in the near future, the outcome would be the same.
Of course, there are so many opportunities to be labelled a ‘world champion’ that Khan’s incredible speed, power and skills would be enough to hold a title of some distinction.
However, he has been exposed and sadly it’s the one area you can protect, but can’t train. Your chin.
Hills now 4/11 Pacquiao, 2/1 Cotto, 22 the draw.
I’m sticking with Manny in six, to set up a Mayweather superfight…..
Your predictions ?
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Despite the Philippino’s presence, I can’t help but feel underwhelmed by this fight. Both Pacquiao and Cotto have form to elevate them above the other, but it’s not at all difficult to devalue. As things stand I think 33/1 about the draw is just about the best bet on offer.
Freddie Roach has said that Pacquiao will be adopting the same tactics David Haye used to defeat Nikolay Valuev and whilst I don’t doubt that he has the requisite stamina to make full use of such an approach – Roach has said that he regularly puts Pacquiao through 23-round training sessions – Cotto can (and will) take whatever Pacman can throw at him. And it shouldn’t be forgotten that Cotto is an exceptionally clever fighter and one hell of a puncher; if he connects early, Pacquiao will know about it.
Speed and accuracy are in Pacquiao’s favour, with power and stamina in Cotto’s. The general consensus in the US is that the former is by far the likeliest winner (a survey of 28 boxing professionals sided unreservedly with Pacquiao, 22-4 with 2 undecideds), but if the latter can survive the first four or five rounds then he could gradually gain the upper hand.
It really is a toss-of-the-coin situation, but if pushed for a winner I’d go with the raw power of Cotto. But only just.
Draw – 1 point @ 33/1 (Ladbrokes)
Cotto Round 10 – 1 point @ 40/1 (Bet365)
Cotto Points – 2 points @ 15/2 (Bet365)
Pacquiao Round 5 – 0.5 points @ 16/1 (Totesport)Pacquiao wins – stoppage in the 12th.
By all reports, another impressive performance from probably the best pound for pound fighter in the world.
Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning
A performance to give FMj nightmares – so dominant that you wonder if all the money in the world could tempt him to fight Manny…………
Mayweather will probably insist the fight is at light middle. He always makes sure he has an edge.
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On that performance Mayweather has absolutely nothing to fear from Pacquiao.
There was only going to be one winner, but the decision to stop the fight was nothing short of ludicrous and it was by no means as one-sided as some seem to be suggesting (the clueless Andy Smith and Jim Watt are no use in this regard, given that they’re apparently only capable of commentating on half a fight – and even then it’s 50:50 as to whether they’re talking sense or not).
It’s important not to underestimate the effect the crowd have on the perception of a fight such as this. People the world over love Pacquiao and are on their feet as soon as they see his arms moving, regardless of how much contact he’s actually making. A flurry of punches has the audience in raptures, despite him regularly connecting with only two or three of ten shots thrown. Consequently we begin to buy in to something that doesn’t actually exist and that’s the major problem the aforementioned Jim Watt has (so much so that Cotto went from being ‘out on his feet, flat-footed and finished’ in the eighth round, to ‘still light on his feet’ in the tenth – utter garbage). Biased television coverage doesn’t help either, the highlights of round five showing Pacquiao almost flooring Cotto yet failing to convey the battering he’d taken for 60 seconds prior to that.
Cotto was far from fluent last night – he still looked to be suffering from the after-effects of his bouts with Antonio Margarito and Josh Clottey – but landed enough meaningful shots to let Pacquiao know that he’s not invincible. The fact that he was still on his feet in the twelfth round, in spite of the damage done to his face, says a lot about what the Philippino actually achieved.
Quite how Freddie Roach has conditioned Pacquiao, I don’t know – it’s suspiciously brilliant how he maintains such a high-octane approach – but his willingness to keep going after opponents is incredibly deceptive, masking hideous inaccuracies in his delivery of combinations. Cotto didn’t move quick enough at times and so got caught, but Mayweather won’t be so easy to pin down. Throw in his speed, punching power and anticipation (which is sensational) and Pacquiao will do well to last the distance.
Make no mistake, Cotto hurt Pacquiao yesterday – he delivered a wonderful four-punch combination in the third round (I think), with every shot landing flush – and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him favour a meeting with Shane Mosley over Mayweather (despite what Roach has said).
, but this is just ridiculous – the records of Salita’s last six opponents make somewhat grim reading.
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