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- June 20, 2009 at 17:05 #235509
Should Jamie Spencer be found in breach for the way he rode your horse at Salisbury the other day? Didn’t look like he made any effort to maximise your fillys chance of winning.
IMHO he should. We all make a fuss about horses we think have been ‘stopped’ but surely the two best ways to ‘stop’ a horse in view of the stewards apparent lack of concern about such rides is to either ride them far too fast or far too slowly.
If it’s acceptable to either race off with a twenty length lead when the horse ends up falling in a heap or alternatively give the rest of the field a twenty length head start to prevent a horse getting into the race then I cannot see how any other type of ride can be punishable under the rules.
June 20, 2009 at 17:23 #235514If it’s acceptable to either race off with a twenty length lead when the horse ends up falling in a heap or alternatively give the rest of the field a twenty length head start to prevent a horse getting into the race then I cannot see how any other type of ride can be punishable under the rules.
Thats the problem Tuffers. If they were to hand out bans for this kind of thing there’d be no jockeys left.
June 20, 2009 at 17:27 #235515Exactly my point Seabird. Where do you draw the line with this? As I say its only this time of the year when this ever becomes an issue.
Think an injudicious ride is totally different, as it is a mistake by a jockey. Everyone makes mistakes and jockeys should not be punished for mistakes. In the case of pacemakers they often go off at a suicidal pace. If that happened on any other horse they would be had in as a possible non-trier. Punters are able to back pacemakers, therefore they should not be exempt from the rules of racing.
Thought about taking them out of the betting. However, if they are totally outside the rules, unscrupulous trainers may use them even more to stop their main rivals from winning.
Value Is EverythingJune 20, 2009 at 17:44 #235518In the case of pacemakers they often go off at a suicidal pace. If that happened on any other horse they would be had in as a possible non-trier.
Your having a laugh surely Ginge. Suggest you watch a bit more racing. You could start with the 5:50 last Wednesday night.
June 21, 2009 at 20:39 #235695Cav,
Do you think Admiral went off too fast? May be it did.
Do you think it was on purpose?
Surely some allowance should be made for an apprentice riding a natural front runner?
Value Is EverythingJune 21, 2009 at 21:50 #235708Thats the problem though Ginge. How can you legislate for horses who run too freely, mistakes by dehydrated and hungry jockeys, mistakes by inexperianced jockeys, jockeys who are having a bad day, connections who are simply trying different tactics. Like arresting everyone who drove 1 mile an hour over the speed limit there is simply no way the sport has the resources to deal with this. The Hamilton example is just one of many that happen all the time. If you want an example of a more experienced jockey look at Richard Hughes on Barshiba yesterday. You cant have one rule for one set of horses and jockeys and a different set for the rest in the same race.
I do agree though that some denotion on a racecard of a horse who will most likely be carrying out pacemaking duties in Group races would be helpful. As I’m sure your aware you’d be well ahead backing pacemakers this year.
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