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- December 6, 2008 at 06:01 #9544
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I’m sure that boxing’s romantic faithful will be hoping for a de la Hoya masterclass on Saturday night, but whilst I agree with the American’s prediction that the fight won’t last the scheduled twelve rounds I can’t see anything other than a convincing Pacquiao victory.
Pacquaio is stepping up a division to be able to fight de la Hoya, but physically he’s in incredible shape and the small reach disadvantage he has will be no hinderance. He punches quickly, he punches cleanly and he punches hard, and I’m struggling to see how de la Hoya is going to cope with it. He’s by no means over the hill, but there comes a time when the baton has to be passed.
Now is that time.
Neither fighter is averse to hitting the ground running, so I don’t expect anything other than a frantic pace. That alone reduces the chance of seeing the fight last the distance, but if Pacquiao finds a rhythm early he could tear de la Hoya apart.
Pacquaio to win @ 15/8 with Coral
Pacquaio in round 7 @ 66/1 with Coral
Pacquaio in round 8 @ 66/1 with CoralDecember 7, 2008 at 09:11 #195059
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Come on Pacman!!!!, TKO this American inbread who deserted his country Mexico.
Did you see Pacman enter the arena in an Arsenal tracksuit? lol legend.
Equitrak I can see this going at least 10 rounds.
December 7, 2008 at 09:34 #195065
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Oscar is just getting mullerd, the speed of Pacman is just unreal. What a spectical!
December 7, 2008 at 09:51 #195068
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Bloody amazing, what a fight from Pacman… DLH face was rearragned.
December 7, 2008 at 13:42 #195077Good call, Equitrack.
I plumped for an ODLH points win, expecting him to use his physical advantages, but he wasn’t allowed to. He suddenly grew very old, didn’t he ?
MP’s next victim will be Ricky Hatton, but after that ?
Mayweather ? Margarito ? Cotto ?There’s some exciting fights to come for sure.
December 7, 2008 at 15:41 #195098Well done Equitrack – nice time of year for a 66/1 winner (not that there’s ever a bad time obviously!)
December 7, 2008 at 19:38 #195177
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I don’t suppose I can complain too much, David, only perhaps that I wasted £20 on the seventh round saver!
It was a stunning performance from Pacquiao it has to be said and well worth staying up for. I wouldn’t be too quick to challenge him if I were Ricky Hatton.
December 7, 2008 at 20:52 #195202I wouldn’t be too quick to challenge him if I were Ricky Hatton.
Too right.
Hatton will get eaten alive.
December 8, 2008 at 04:38 #195337I strongly disagree with that mate.
Oscar looked old and slow in there last night, and without wanting to take anything away from Pacman (who I’m a huge fan of) I think Ricky at 140 is a whole different kettle of fish.
Manny looked good in there, but there wasn’t much coming back, not like there would be with Hatton buzzing all over him.
It will be an absolute tear up for sure and one I’m already hugely looking forward to. Ricky to be too strong on the inside and wear him down in an absolute thriller for me.
December 8, 2008 at 06:30 #195347
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It’s true to say that de la Hoya offered little resistance to Pacquiao’s onslaught, but I wouldn’t be so sure that Hatton is any better equipped to deal with it. Admittedly he’s in far better shape than de la Hoya, and has the speed and punching power to at least slow Pacman down, but I just don’t think he has enough about him to hold him off for the eight or nine rounds he’d need to.
I approached the Hatton vs Mayweather fight with belief and optimism, and in the first couple of rounds I was feeling relatively confident. Mayweather soon got on top of him though and it was only a matter of time before the conquering punch was landed. Hatton’s training clearly hadn’t suited him as he had to change the way he boxed, but it’s something he’s had to do a number of times in recent bouts and someone of the calibre of Pacquiao won’t afford him any mistakes.
Ricky has always been at his best when storming out of the blocks and going after his man – he hits hard and can take a decent shot. But even when facing off against the likes of Castillo and Tszyu he made hard work of fighters who, whilst world class, didn’t offer as much as they perhaps could.
There was plenty of promise in his defeat of Paulie Malignaggi, but comparing him to Pacquiao is like marking Kerry Katona against Charlize Theron in a beauty contest. Malignaggi is far too fond of trying to win his fights with his mouth rather than his gloves, and the fact he came off second-best in his press conferences with Hatton tells its own story. That said he still made Ricky work and took three decent punches fairly well.
As things stand, Hatton vs Pacquiao has to happen – at 140lb there are no two fighters people want to see more. That assumes though that Mayweather remains in retirement. Rumours have begun that he’s considering returning to the ring and, if he does, I can’t believe that Pacman’s promoter will turn him down in favour of facing Ricky (Mayweather could also choose to offer Hatton a re-match, though I’d think that unlikely). It would be the big money fight and nothing would make Mayweather happier – we need only consider the ludicrous $20m he was paid by the WWE to appear at one of their PPVs to know that.
I think, in all honesty, that Pacquiao would have every chance of toppling Mayweather, and on that alone I can’t see him succumbing to the determined efforts of Hatton. He’s too quick, and too strong – physically he’s leagues ahead of most in his division.
December 8, 2008 at 07:13 #195350Ricky really needs to take on board the advice of Floyd snr and pack in his bad habits, especially in the lead up to any potential fight with Pacquiao.
He would need to be in the shape of his life, and one would hope that Floyd snr could tweak a few things a bit more and get him moving his head a bit more and using his excellent footwork a bit more on the way in.
Charging in like a madman in straight lines with little head movement was ultimately his downfall against Mayweather, a fight for the record, I didn’t hold much hope for Ricky in, despite spending the best part of £1500 to be in attendance.
I really fancy his chances a lot more against Pacquiao though as I feel Ricky could get inside him more and use his strength and power up close to unsettle and rough him up a bit.
Pacquiao undoubtedly starts favourite for this, but I strongly feel Ricky has the tools to win this and realise his dream and become the lb for lb number one in the World.
Mayweather then to come out of retirement and take on the winner (hopefully Hatton).
December 8, 2008 at 21:54 #195471Interesting that shortly after the Hatton / Malignaggi contest Mayweather Snr said that Pacquiao would be perfect for Hatton. Personally, I think Mayweather Snr has a sneaking suspicion Hatton will beat him.
Of course, he’s now free to train ‘The Hitman’. It would’ve been interesting to see what corner he would’ve been in if De La Hoya had won. "Who ever pays me the most" was his answer.
Oh well. Like father, like son.
Wouldn’t read too much into the $20 million Mayweather Jnr was supposedly paid for WM 24. They release this kind of crap to generate ‘heat’. Although, it wouldn’t surprise me if he was paid something in the region.
Great to see one of the modern greats of boxing – I was there.
December 8, 2008 at 22:41 #195490I honestly can’t see anything other than a night of pain for Ricky.
His face-first style is made for Manny, and his punch resistance is all but gone, leading to him being rocked by some pretty ordinary opponents nowadays. Let’s be honest, with only 5 ko’s Malignaggi was never going to offer any risk, and if a powderpuff puncher like him can stun Hatton……….
December 31, 2008 at 17:29 #200633Manny Pacman wud utterly destroy Ricky Hatton – and I’m a big Hatton fan. Ricky is not in the same solar system as Manny who now must go down as one of the best lb4lb boxers of all time. The fight I really want to see is Floyd Mayweather against Manny. Now THAT would be interesting. Much and all as I love Manny to death I think Floyd might edge it. He is so good at NOT getting hit. Altho saying that it wud be interesting to see what Floyd wud do when faced with an opponent who cud actually hit him. It wud be a mighty interesting fight.
December 31, 2008 at 22:56 #200688http://www.mb.com.ph/MAIN20081231144554.html
Pacquiao-Hatton fight on May 2, 2009, a done deal – Arum
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It isn’t signed, sealed and delivered yet, but all signs point to a May 2 clash in Las Vegas between Manny Pacquiao and Ricky Hatton of England.
“As far as I’m concerned, it’s done,” Top Rank head Bob Arum told the Manila Bulletin yesterday, moments after the Hall of Fame promoter met with Pacquiao, lawyer Franklin Gacal and chief trainer Freddie Roach over dinner in Los Angeles.
Arum said either the Thomas and Mack Center, which seats 19,000, or the MGM Grand Garden Arena, which can accommodate more than 15,000, will play host to the 12-round bout at super lightweight/junior welterweight (140 lbs).
Arum personally went to Tinseltown to discuss the matter with the 30year-old Filipino poundfor-pound king to ensure that he knows where Team Pacquiao stands.
“I have been talking with Golden Boy Promotions (GBP) about this fight and it’s just about done,” said Arum, who has come back from a weeklong vacation in Cabo San Lucas in Mexico.
GBP, which is owned by Oscar De La Hoya and whose operations is handled by Richard Schaefer, has promotional rights over the rugged Hatton, whose devil-may-care attitude on top of the ring is said to be custom-made for Pacquiao.
“Ninety percent (done),” Gacal said, stressing that everyone on the team wants the fight to happen.
Gacal said a deal should be finalized as soon as he has been given the authority by Pacquiao to work out some of the minor concerns.
It could not be determined yet what will be the revenue-sharing scheme for the Hatton fight although it is safe to say that Pacquiao will get the bigger piece of the pie since he currently dominates the world of boxing.
Pacquiao settled for the smaller piece of the pie when he agreed to battle De La Hoya early this month since it was the Golden Boy – and not himself – who was the main attraction then.
But things are a whole lot different now and Team Pacquiao is very much aware of Pacquiao’s full earning potentials.
Pacquiao should be back in the country on Jan. 10 after his wife, Jinkee, gives birth to their fourth child on New Year’s Day.
But it will not take long before Pacquiao heads back to Los Angeles to begin training camp as he will have to be there by the last week of February for a three-city press tour to promote the Hatton fight.
“New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles (will be the stops),” said Gacal.
After the whirlwind promotional tour, Pacquiao will show up at the Wild Card Boxing Club for training camp proper.
Looks like it’s going to happen
December 31, 2008 at 23:37 #200694
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I don’t think I’ll be betting beyond the 4th or 5th round for this one.
January 2, 2009 at 05:36 #200974Oh dear Ricky.
There’s still time to make an easy fight with Amir Khan instead !
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