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  • #1617385
    moehat
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    I think it was during the Thatcher years that people were encouraged to buy things on credit ( I could be wrong). I don’t know how people can live like that. The only time I ran up large credit card bills was when interest rates were high so I banked the money but always paid my credit card bill on time so they got no interest out of me.

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    I don’t think I’ve ever owned a credit card.

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    Same Ian, although I know and not think
    watched mother and father buy a few things and end up paying double

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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    Whther it’s Chris Mason on BBC or Beth Rigby on SKY, everywhere I look it’s media ripping Truss to shreds in a way I’ve never seen a PM treated before.

    Their contempt for her and belief she’s finished already is palpable.

    I think many of us knew Johnson presided over a nodding dog, cheerleader, pro-Brexit Cabinet that wouldn’t challenge him – worst Cabinet we’ve ever seen.

    But the vacuum left by his exit had ushered in, unbelievably, something even worse, beyond scraping the barrel, it’s what’s left below the bottom of the barrel, led by someone manifestly not up to the job.

    The membership, by electing someone who could only muster 64>71>86>113 votes in the parliamentary elections have split the parliamentary party, but right down the middle because fewer than half of Tory MPs wanted Truss in the first place.

    No wonder Mordaunt is gunning for her – Mordaunt was robbed of the leadership by her, is almost as popular at Westminster and has a 16,000 plus majority.

    Mordaunt will be confident of being a survivor in a heavy election defeat – she’s started her second leadership bid today, I reckon.

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    #1617404
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    You might be right but she may end up sitting on the wrong side of the house for too long , Truss is a caretaker manager waiting on the new person coming in , the Tories are really lacking competent , experienced MP,s at this point , if Mordaunt does take over she,s going to have to work with an inexperienced cabinet …..or a poisonous one

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    Winning a landslide is usually like winning two elections for the price of one – landslide winners usually follow up five years later.

    The Tories are looking at ten, not five, years in the wilderness of the opinion polls are right.

    There doesn’t have to be an election until January 2025, but the way things are going I am now starting to think we might get one earlier than that.

    An 80-seat majority is no use if your MPs are fragmented and whether it’s Truss or anyone else, they might end up needing to go to the country to seek a fresh mandate to pursue their policies sooner rather than later.

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    True Ian but if she goes to the country she,ll lose …badly

    #1617411
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    I doubt anyone really wants to have a General Election in January. It was bad enough the last time in December but at least that was when lots of people were out and about just before Christmas.

    January is dark, bleak and often gets the worst of the weather. Most people just want to hibernate. The idea of being out campaigning would not hold much appeal for anyone.

    I think the latest the General Election will be is October 2024, no matter what the polls are like.

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    Historically, Tory turnout is usually more weather/season resistant than Labour turnout.

    This will surely be truer than ever by January 2025.

    The Tory voters can drive to the polling stations in their 4x4s with heated seats, whereas those few remaining Labour voters who haven’t already died of hypothermia by then will be shivering at bus stops up and down the land.

    If I was Truss, I’d be leaving it later than Greville Starkey on Dancing Brave in The Derby!

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    #1617413
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    But he still lost, as Truss almost certainly will as well. Leaving it until the last minute looks like desperately clinging onto power for the sake of it, which does not impress voters.

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    Truss even being damaged by those supposedly on her side.

    Suella Braverman, in claiming there has been an attempted “coup” against Truss, has surely escalated tensions further.

    It’s hard to think offhand of a more inflammatory label to put on developments.

    Can’t wait for Truss’s speech tomorrow.

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    #1617416
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    So Coffey, our obese drinking smoking health secretary (which pretty much sums up this government) said in her speech today that the NHS was the brainchild of the Conservative party (to rapturous applause). And Kwarteng is now blaming his budget that wasn’t a budget) on the Queen’s death. Now, I know this government blames everything on everybody else but them but that really is pushing it a bit too far.

    #1617428
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    Part of me wants to hear how’s she going to play this ….the rest of me can’t stand here souless voice …..saying that it’ll be the only one she,ll do so I should cock my good ear towards it

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    It’s already been a Tory Party Conference like no other in my lifetime.

    Labour are traditionally the Party for open idealogical in fighting.

    Seldom have Labour presented such a united front, never have the Tories been so manifestly at Civil War.

    It’s been coming.

    If the Party of the Left keeps winning, they will usually keep shifting the country to the Left, each new government has a new manifesto and mandate to drag the nation in their direction.

    The converse is equally true with Parties of the right.

    No point in winning elections and being in power if you don’t use each win to take the country that bit closer still to your idealogical nirvana.

    Not only have the Tories been in power 12 years, they have been in power for 30 of the last 43 years since 1979, a period only broken by 13 years of very moderate Labour government which left much of what Thatcher created intact.

    Lower taxes for the highest earners, the eroding of benefits for lowest/non earners – this is a step nearer the idealogical end game for the Tories, the ultimate being a world where tax is abolished and along with it all benefits and all public services.

    That’s the kind of stuff some of these right wing “think” tanks believe in and Truss would send the country hurtling towards if she could.

    In an economic boom she might just have got away with it, but during a post-Pandemic War-fuelled cost of living crisis it’s the wrong policy at the wrong time in the wrong place.

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    Lower taxes for the highest earners, the eroding of benefits for lowest/non earners – this is a step nearer the idealogical end game for the Tories, the ultimate being a world where tax is abolished and along with it all benefits and all public services.

    That’s the kind of stuff some of these right wing “think” tanks believe in and Truss would send the country hurtling towards if she could.

    Orf with their heads! Vive le revolution!

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    Braverman ‘dreams’ of seeing newspaper splashes with a picture of a plane full of human beings being flown on a one way flight to Rwanda. ‘Dreams’. What a truly despicable comment. We really are in the gutter if that what a member of the cabinet thinks is acceptable. Absolutely vile.

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    “Post-Pandemic War-fuelled cost of living crisis.”

    It was not the pandemic but lockdown that caused the crisis. 

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