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I had my cash outs cancelled then account restrictions also know that horses are running in a race are taken out of the betting for ante post races before the off with bet365
This is the real world, with Silent Assassin and Landafar adding to the comment.
Whether it’s Bet365 or anyone else, they routinely suspend ante-post markets while a race of note is going on and anyone who is actually any good at betting loses cash-out and free bets sooner rather than later anyway.
I backed Opera Singer at 28/1 win only for the Oaks with BetWay at 5.39pm on 26/8/2023.
The price was cut to 16/1 shortly thereafter.
Any ante-post bet I talk about here in future will carry those details at the time.
Anyone who deals in honesty will have no issue in following suit.
Draw your own conclusions about those who won’t.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“they routinely suspend ante-post markets while a race of note is going on”
They frequently do but not always.
“Anyone who deals in honesty will have no issue in following suit. Draw your own conclusions about those who won’t.”
Racing Forum members can talk about racing bets and odds in whichever way they like, whilst preferably being honest about it. If the honest person is not believed that’s fine and they can carry on no worries.
Bookmakers routinely suspend ante-post markets, Mike. That’s a fact not an opinion.
The rare time they make a mistake and don’t suspend, then the odds taken will not be the odds paid out if it wins. Because it rightly comes into the bookies “palpable error” rule. The only exceptions to that rule are if the punter is so bad the bookmaker wants to keep him sweet by paying out at the bigger price – knowing they will get it back and a lot more. I don’t think you are that “bad”. It’s not just the once this has happened either, you’ve been called out on it before.You’re also trying to con the bookmakers by taking odds that everyone knows should have been changed. So you’re not “being honest about it” whatever way we’re looking at it.
Value Is EverythingMarkets open very fast after a race
I’ve known television quotes by Ed come up before the winning jockey has had the pleasure to chat to ChapmanCharles Darwin to conquer the World
Didn’t this thread used to be about the 2024 Oaks?
The more I know the less I understand.
“You’re also trying to con the bookmakers by taking odds that everyone knows should have been changed. So you’re not “being honest about it” whatever way we’re looking at it.”
The bookies don’t try and con anyone eh Ginge
got dead horses in their marketsCharles Darwin to conquer the World
“You’re also trying to con the bookmakers by taking odds that everyone knows should have been changed.”
lol I’m not trying to con them, if I like the odds on offer I’ll take the odds on offer. And I’ve always been paid if a horse wins, or places from an ew perspective.
“Didn’t this thread used to be about the 2024 Oaks?”
It still is. Do you have a shortlist on the race this far our RTB?
“lol I’m not trying to con them, if I like the odds on offer I’ll take the odds on offer. And I’ve always been paid if a horse wins, or places from an ew perspective”.
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LOL
Then you are that bad they’re keeping you sweet.Value Is Everything“Then you are that bad they’re keeping you sweet.”
Yep I must be totally hopeless. ;o)
“The bookies don’t try and con anyone eh Ginge
got dead horses in their markets”.——————–
Under the rules of racing there must be a chance of winning for any bet to be a bet.
So if you know of any bet on a dead horse a bookmaker has actually taken I suggest you inform the punter the bet is void, Nathan.
Value Is EverythingGT is absolutely, absolutely, ABSOLUTELY on the money with literally everything he says about this subject on this thread.
What’s more, he’s been calm, detached and objective throughout.
Anyone can try and get the pre-race price ante-post about a horse that just hosed up in a trial – it’s not shrewd, it’s just grubby and conniving.
You’d need to be some kind of saddo to be continually glued to Oddschecker post race then forever rushing on here claiming to have got the price the software that cost some joke outfit like Quinnbet a fiver to have built is claiming to still offer until someone puts 50p in the meter and it updates.
CAS did well getting 17/2 with a boost because that didn’t last long.
Anyway, rumour has it Mike’s grandad claimed to have just got 25/1 Shergar for The Derby ten seconds after he bolted in by the length of Esher High Street at Sandown in 1981 so maybe the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
16/1 the five-length Boussac winner my arse!
Stroll on!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Ummm
I think that’s usually the best time to obtain a good price is straight after the race. What’s grubby about it?
Should you wait for a worse priceCharles Darwin to conquer the World
To ID’s sentence:
“they routinely suspend ante-post markets while a race of note is going on”.Mike replied:
“They frequently do but not always”.From that I take that Mike is not after the new odds after the race, Nathan.
He’s looking to back the odds that were available before the race after he knows what the horse has achieved in the race – before the new market has formed.Value Is EverythingThere’s a massive difference, Nathan, between trying to grab a “palp” (palpable error) because the price hasn’t been updated and seeing what CAS saw (8/1, 17/2 boosted) and thinking: “that revised price is still too big, that won’t last, I’m having that.”
That’s my point.
And once again GT nails it above with the distinction between the two.^
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Or you could do what I do and take a nice antepost price for Cheltenham before a dinky little Noddy race for which the horse is odds on against a maximum of two donkey rivals and then, heavily laden with my expectations, the nag will be forced to select one of the following options (recent examples)
a) fall on its face (Saint Sam)
b) pull up with some mystery malaise (Zarak the Brave) or
c) make heavy weather of trying to keep up with a horse rated several stones worse and ultimately get beaten (Feronily)
Your cashout and free bet perks are nothing, I got a hamper off Denise Coates last Christmas and Paddy Power himself sent me a teddy bear clutching a plushy heart on Valentine’s Day. Everybody in his office has identical coffee mugs with a picture of my face and the legend “my favourite mug” emblazoned on it.
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