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And I’m not sure why everyone’s making such a big deal about it. There must be about 10 posts asking why I called him that.
Hymmnsheet will win and maybe the Oaks as well though backed Termagant for Oaks as well.
good ground- gertrude bell. Gd-fm the dynaformer filly that won the lingfield trial.
"Zarkava" wrote: Bolger really is a prick. Anyway she has absolutely no chance of winning the Oaks now. Only O’Brien knows how to run horses in the Irish 1000 while leaving them with something for the Oaks.
Very abusive comment. Bolger’s horses are well known for their toughness. It was only two years ago that New Approach placed in the English and Irish 2000 Guineas before winning at Epsom, or have you forgotten? Gile Na Greine stands out for me in this.
Zarkava,Regarding Bolger and ‘Na Greine he also said if I recall that she would have won with an extra furlong and that he was going to Ascot with her next. Then he heads for the Guineas at the Curragh. Suggest you ignore him . He is putting us all on.He has absolutely no intention of sharing his plans with anybody. As to his status, he is a millionaire many times over.He is by no means the poor relation to anyone. He is a dairy man.He has milked quite a few cash cows.
Continuing my theme of working out the race pars for big races, I moved onto the Oaks and the race par came out at
111
Complete list (18 years):
[code:3vca9t05]http://tinyurl.com/3yk3fwe[/code:3vca9t05]What did surprise me was how low the race par for the Oaks was, at only
111
when the Derby is
121
?
^ I’ll need that explaining if possible..
10 days without a post. This really could be a fillies handicap couldn’t it? I can’t get a handle on it all and went as low as fancying Hibaayeb given her proven group form but surely she won’t stay?
BB, it’s probably the worst Oaks there’ll ever be. Abysmal doesn’t begin to explain it.
crikey zark, the truth aint it! All avenues lead me to Aviate, because even if she doesn’t stay, the quality is so poor she won’t need to! You?
Got on Aviates at 25s. Stayed on well after a shocker in the Musiadora. Should be 5/2. If Cecil can’t win the Oaks, especially with the two he has, would be a travesty for him after the Guineas.
I just cannot have Aviate. I mooted her back when the entries were released as a nice trends fit but I just cannot see her staying, and the fact that none of the others who made the frame in the Musidora were even considered for the Oaks speaks volumes. Cecil said back in March that she’s probably a 10f filly, he said before the Musidora that if she won she’d go for the Prix de Diane and part of me just thinks that he’s going down the Oaks route due to sheer desperation after Timepiece flopping twice.
I’m not sure I can have Remember When. Again, just not sure about her stamina.
Maybe Sajjhaa’s the one.
Sajjha for me, looked pretty special on her debut and could be anything, 8/1 looks decent value.
Sajjah for me now to though i backed Rumoush as well.But the former is a horse like a lot.
Sajjha for me, looked pretty special on her debut and could be anything, 8/1 looks decent value.
I do think on forums like these that when people put absolutely clueless posts up they should be taken to task. How the hell can a once raced filly possibly be value for a classic at less than 10/1? Fair enough you like her and have put your money where your mouth is. But don’t claim that value enters your selection process in any way shape or form.
Excuse me? What a patronising post…ok, maybe the word "value" is taken out of context in this instance, I meant it more as in "8/1 for a horse of immense potential who looked incredibly good in her maiden and against a field of exposed types or horses that have hardly been impressive this season, looks well worth a bet". Pedantic to say the least.
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