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    Mike007
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    There’s nothing of that class of race in France in the summer the racing manager has said. Not sure where else they would go tbh.

    #1552751
    Mike007
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    You had ITV on mute TTC. If you didnt have it on mute you wouldve heard Ed Chamberlin say PP and Betfair had Suesa at 5-1. I wont be needing to explain prices to you or anyone else going forward.
    Its pointless as the whingers will continue to whinge.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    Is the RP live stuff decent TTC?

    I normally just watch something else between races because itv are more interested in fashion than analysing/building up towards the races

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    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    Yeah its brilliant crack mate, with some highly interesting analysis. I watch it through Youtube.

    You still beat that with your 11/2 though Mike eh ;-) .

    BUY THE SUN

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    Avatar photoKris
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    Mike, you get pulled up for your prices, because you continually invent prices.

    You had 5-1 for The Nunthorpe after the race today, and your post now shows 11-2.

    Can you explain this?

    #1552758
    Mike007
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    Yes i can Kris. Betfair do price boosts. After i posted the 5-1 i realised i had 11-2 with the price boost so put the correct price in the post.

    Invent prices? No. If you had asked the question without accusing me of inventing prices your post would have some credibility. Ask before accusing.

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    Avatar photoKris
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    You continually invent prices. That is a fact. It is not a question of credibility.

    #1552761
    Mike007
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    As i said a little while ago… the whingers will continue to whinge.

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    Avatar photoKris
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    The fibber will continue to fib.

    #1552764
    Mike007
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    Suesa update from the racing manager..
    ‘York a possible plan if she is OK when they get home but the Abbaye is the main target.’

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    Clints
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    Mike007
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    Suesa ran to OR119 at Goodwood according to the BHA website. Will take a bit of beating in the Nunthorpe on that form with the fillies’ allowance if connections decide to go. Might need a performance around 123+ from a ‘youngster’ or 125+ from an ‘elder’ to turn her over.

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    TheTinMan87
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    It would need a performance of 123 from a male horse (regardless of age) if she ran to that same level of form. The weight for age doesn’t get added in on top. If you believed that a 2 year old taking part in theory would only need to be rated around 100 given the weight for age they get.

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    I’ve going with two here. Arecibo will require a fair bit to figure, but I think Dakota Gold has the ability to really outrun his odds.

    Arecibo is 16-1, and Dakota Gold is 25-1. I think that I might just wait until the day with both of them, as they might just be bigger odds then.

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    TheTinMan87
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    Its the one Group 1 in the calendar year you might as well have a swing at one with Kris, I don’t know what it is about this race but it often belies all previous known form. Since 2000 (21 renewals) there have been 12 horses who won here who were winning at G1 level for the first time and we’ve had some big old prices during that period. Its also more recently been a great race for fillies/mares with Margot Did, Ortensia, Jwala, Meccas Angel x2 and Marsha winning – 6 of the last 10 and it could easily have been more with Que Amoro giving Battaash a fright last year and Mabs Cross going closer still the year Alpha Delphini won.

    I haven’t looked at this in too great a detail yet but Winter Power makes a lot of appeal given those statistics and her course form and I have a hunch Dragon Symbol will get this run to suit having so much pace around him given he gets the 6F very well and he’s a lot better than he showed at Goodwood when Oisin had a rare nightmare on board. Suesa obviously has a great chance but I did feel she was flattered a bit at Goodwood with how it panned out. I don’t like Golden Pal at all, Wesley has had two much better fillies beaten in this.

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    Not convinced this is a particularly strong renewal of this Group 1 contest. On the face of it Suesa’s Goodwood form was decent, but the time was nothing special. Golden Pal has solid form in the US but market is taking no chances.

    WINTER POWER won in a decent time here and is the win selection. MOSS GILL (25/1 each-way) was not far behind on that occasion and ran creditably in this contest last year.

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    buckers
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    I think that you’re right Rob, it doesn’t look that strong compared to previous runnings.

    I’m still finding it tough to pick one though, and for that reason I’ll go with Ubettabelievit at 100-1 ew5plcs for a bit of interest in this. It’s been a terrible 3yo campaign, but the 3rd at Keeneland will give me a small ray of hope.

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