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Anyone willing to take a punt on what might be the novice hurdlers to follow when the proper stuff gets back under way in the Autumn?
Two I’m looking forward too are:
<b>First Lieutenant:</b> Son of Presenting in training with Mouse Morris for Gigginstown (obvious comparisons with a certain Gold Cup winner). Won a point at Kilfeacle back in January and hosed up under Robbie Mac in a bumper at Gowran in March. Smashing looking animal and looks like he could develop into a top chaser one day.
<b>Casual Conquest:</b> Heard a rumour from a little birdie on the Curragh that DK is planning on sending the 2008 Epsom Derby favourite over timber. He was gelded a few weeks back and will start schooling in August/September. Very classy on the flat and always looked athletic enough to go jumping. Very interesting recruit but very few of the high profile flat recruits live up to the hype. He’s at the right address though – Galway Hurdle 2011?! <!– s:lol: –>
<!– s:lol: –>Obvious I know, but
Cue Card
is the one for me
Having re-watched the festival bumper over a dozen times, I still get amazed at how easily he won, pulling away up the hill but looking very immature
It’s been said it was a weak renewal, but I don’t reckon any of the festival races are weak
Form was franked at both Aintree & Punchestowns and would be great to see the Tizzard’s with a top class Hurdler (and chaser in time)
I haven’t got hugely involved ante post yet as want to see if he can jump, but this time last year Dunguib was 3/1 for the Supreme but to my mind CC was equally as impressive yet is 10/1 for the Supreme??
Divine Rhapsody would be one I’m really looking forward to seeing in the Autumn. Looked very smart in the Land Rover. The Real Article looks a machine, but could be put away for the Champion Bumper.
How about FIDDLEDEDEE, impressive Irish point and bumper winner now with JohnJo?
I’ve mentioned her elsewhere CS but she should be unbeaten – she was very very unlucky to tip up in the Mares Final at Ballynoe, only problem is the trainer
Nothing has impressed me more in Bumpers this season than TUS NUA. I don’t know the plans for her but she’s only four and if she was mine I’d be tempted to mop up a couple of flat races with her before sending her hurdling, …provided of course that she can jump. I’d do the same with Cue Card.
I normally prefer to follow those that take the Point, bumper, hurdle route, i.e For Bill
I’ve never understood why very impressive high grade Bumper winners are assumed to be star hurdlers of the future.
Quadco, Cousin Vinny, Dunguib to name but three, and yes, I stood for the Dunguib hype to my cost
I do wonder how Dunguib’s connections felt seeing Rite Of Passage win The Ascot Gold Cup. Missed opportunity if there ever was one.- Total Posts 17716
Don’t ever say I’m not good to you
A horse to look out for this season that isn’t with Jonjo but a few miles up the road at Martin Keighley’s yard in Moreton in Marsh is causing a few ripples. The Duke’s old yard.He didn’t come cheap but he’s a right horse and won his only race, a bumper at sunny Kilbeggan. Totally unfancied he had at least 16 horses in front of him 2f from home including a hot pot ridden by Nina Carberry and he cut through them like a knife through butter.
I am told he’s going the right way (did 2 sparkling bits over the last two weeks) and looks to be a bit special so he should be winning more than his fair share of races. Doubt if he’ll be starting at double figures as word gets around :0) but should make enough to buy a pizza or two first time he runs.
C*hampion C*ourt
here you go boys!!! enjoy this will be so good for everyone come jump season
Forlovenormoney (IRE)
* 6-y-o (25May04 b g)
* Flemensfirth (USA) — Ounavara Girl (IRE) (Hollow Hand (12.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner J Hales
* Breeder Owen MurphyComment: Founder member of the thread but unraced last term. Won his sole PTP decisively in Ireland back in may 2009, had the subsequent useful Novice ‘The Minack’ well beaten in 3rd.
Don’t Turn Bach (IRE)
* 6-y-o (08Apr04 b g)
* Bach (IRE) (13.2f) — Bobbie Magee (IRE) (Buckskin (FR ) (12.5f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner J Hales
* Breeder Miss Maeve ChadwickComment: Subsequently with Willie Mullins last term looked a smart prospect before flopping on debut for new yard, breathing op over summer hoped to have him back on track and looks set for useful novice hurdling campaign
Water Garden (FR)
* 4-y-o (13Mar06 gr g)
* Turgeon (USA) (10.4f) — Queenstown (FR) (Cadoudal (FR ) (18.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner D A Johnson
* Breeder Guy CherelComment: Founder member of the thread but unraced last term. Purchased last year was expected out initially prior to christmas in a juvenile bumper, then later in the campaign but a number of reasons put paid to that, well regarded it seemed and could be interesting this term.
Definity (IRE)
* 7-y-o (22Apr03 b/br g)
* Definite Article (11.1f) — Ebony Jane (Roselier (FR ) (16.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner C G Roach
* Breeder Kenilworth House StudComment: Exciting prospect given what his novice hurdling form has amounted too, I would expect him to be a leading candidate for the RSA chase, but looks set for a promising novice chasing campaign
Al Ferof (FR)
* 5-y-o (30Mar05 gr g)
* Dom Alco (FR) — Maralta (FR) (Altayan )
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner J Hales
* Breeder J Rauch & G ChenuComment: Smart bumper form including 2nd in champion Bumper, exciting novice hurdling prospect.
Sang Bleu (FR)
* 4-y-o (24Mar06 gr g)
* Lavirco (GER) — Formosa (FR) (Royal Charter (FR ) (12.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner S Munir
* Breeder Francois RimaudComment: Founder member from the thread, placed and won over hurdles last term but set to improve out of all recognition Novice chasing this term.
The Minack (IRE)
* 6-y-o (02Jun04 b g)
* King´s Theatre (IRE) (11.3f) — Ebony Jane (Roselier (FR ) (16.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner C G Roach
* Breeder Kenilworth House StudComment: Founder member of the thread and won 3 times for us last year. Novice Chasing this term and expected to improve for the larger obstacles.
Ghizao (GER)
* 6-y-o (23Apr04 b g)
* Tiger Hill (IRE) (11.0f) — Glorosia (FR) (Bering (10.1f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner The Johnson & Stewart Families
* Breeder Baron G Von UllmanComment: Useful novice hurdler who Ruby Walsh once claimed could be the ‘next Well Chief’ novice Chasing this term will tell us more (expected to attempt a big handicap hurdle first.)
Owen Glendower (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Mar05 br g)
* Anshan (9.3f) — Native Success (IRE) (Be My Native (USA) (11.7f))
* Trainer N J Henderson
* Owner The Ten From Seven
* Breeder Kenilworth House StudComment: Founder member of the thread, winning easily on second bumper start, before failing to give masses of weight away, novice hurdling this campaign could see this smart prospect improve into a decent sort.
Golden Chieftain (IRE)
* 5-y-o (14May05 b g)
* Tikkanen (USA) — Golden Flower (GER) (Highland Chieftain )
* Trainer C L Tizzard
* Owner Brocade Racing
* Breeder Robert DonaldsonComment: Trainer likes him , having shown ability on all 3 bumper starts, likely to improve significantly this campaign when novice hurdling.
Cue Card
* 4-y-o (30Apr06 b g)
* King´s Theatre (IRE) (11.3f) — Wicked Crack (IRE) (King´s Ride (14.0f))
* Trainer C L Tizzard
* Owner Mrs Jean R Bishop
* Breeder R T CrellinComment: Champion bumper winner, yard claim he’s their best ever 4yo and promising sort for novice hurdles with bags of speed.
Dunraven Storm (IRE)
* 5-y-o (11Mar05 br g)
* Presenting (14.3f) — Foxfire (Lord Americo (16.0f))
* Trainer P J Hobbs
* Owner Mrs Karola Vann
* Breeder Miss Violet SweeneyComment: Founder member of the thread, despite failing to make presence felt in the champion bumper, bounced back next time in a bumper at Exeter, looks set for a fruitful campaign over hurdles.
Carlicue (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* King´s Theatre (IRE) (11.3f) — Woodville Star (IRE) (Phardante (FR ) (12.7f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner Browne, S & Burke, W JComment: Promising when routing the opposition in maiden PTP win and looks sure to be a force over hurdles this year, could well be in the mix for the Albert Bartlett.
Rangitoto (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Old Vic (13.0f) — Kendos Dream (IRE) (Presenting (14.3f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner Paul K Barber
* BreederComment: Following in the footsteps and colours of Denman, the Barber owned Irish PTP winner was eye catching on his sole start winning hard held.
Bobby Ewing (IRE)
* 5-y-o (04Mar05 b g)
* Bob´s Return (IRE) (7.8f) — Jacqueline´s Glen (Furry Glen (12.8f))
* Trainer N A Twiston-Davies
* Owner Million In Mind Partnership
* Breeder Miss June FineganComment: Founder member of the thread It was devastating news when it was announced his novice hurdle campaign was to be cut short, when looking a real smart sort, trouncing Menorah on his last start and we all know how that form has worked out, a successful novice chasing in the offing.
Minella Stars (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Accordion (11.9f) — V´Soske Gale (IRE) (Strong Gale (12.5f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner John Nallen
* BreederComment: Quote "a real staying chaser for the future" having won two PTP’s very well. Novice hurdling will be his game this term though.
Empire Levant (USA)
* 3-y-o (14May07 gr c)
* Empire Maker (USA) (9.6f) — Orellana (USA) (With Approval (CAN) (9.9f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner Sir Alex Ferguson
* Breeder Haras Du MezerayComment: French acquisition who won 3 times on the flat. Promising mover and expected to win over hurdles.
Sam Winner (FR)
* 3-y-o (07Feb07 b g)
* Okawango (USA) (11.6f) — Noche (IRE) (Night Shift (USA) (8.0f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner Angela Yeoman
* Breeder Ecurie WinningComment: Looks a smart sort on French evidence despite still being a maiden, already well raced so no surprise to see him pitched in at a decent level early.
Domtaline (FR)
* 3-y-o (24Mar07 ro g)
* Martaline — Domna Noune (FR) (Dom Pasquini (FR ) (9.3f))
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner Sarl Ecurie Camille Garnier
* Breeder Y FouinComment: Started off life in Frances biggest maiden hurdle and finished a solid 3rd, with comparisons already to Chapoturgeon and plans to run in the Wetherby’s Wensleydale Hurdle he is one to follow.
Silviniaco Conti (FR)
* 4-y-o (14Apr06 ch g)
* Dom Alco (FR) — Gazelle Lulu (FR) (Altayan )
* Trainer P F Nicholls
* Owner P Boulard & P Joubert
* Breeder P JoubertComment: Twice raced over hurdles in france, impressive winning both. Handicapper over here already given him a hurdling mark of 135 so hading straight to a novice Chase cmapaign. Could be an Arkle type.
American Ladie
* 4-y-o (18Apr06 b f)
* Monashee Mountain (USA) (6.9f) — Dounine (Kaldoun (FR ) (8.0f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner Million In Mind Partnership
* Breeder Edy SrlComment: Founder member of the thread, raced on flat in France before joining Alan King, not seen out last year, hopefully will make the track this term.
Batonnier (FR)
* 4-y-o (04Apr06 ch g)
* Spadoun (FR) — La Bazine (FR) (Dreams To Reality (USA) (8.0f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner H R Mould
* Breeder Olivier DelegueComment: Fancied when winning Fontwell bumper back in May and looks useful enough to be winning over hurdles.
Franklino (FR)
* 3-y-o (27Apr07 ch g)
* Gold Away (IRE) (9.2f) — Amour Fatal (IRE) (Rainbows For Life (CAN) (10.6f))
* Trainer Alan King
* Owner McNeill Family
* Breeder S C E A Haras Du Ma & L & Mme C LenginComment: Twice a winner on the flat in France, owned by the Mcniell family who often have a smart juvenile with Alan King (ala Mille Chief & Walkon), could be smart.
Pantxoa (FR)
* 3-y-o (18Mar07 b g)
* Daliapour (IRE) (16.1f) — Palmeria (FR) (Great Palm (USA) (12.5f))
* Trainer Alan King
* Owner The Dunkley & Reilly Partnership
* Breeder Pierre De Maleissye MelunComment: Under the same ownership as Medermit, this juvenile is 1 from 1 in france in a 2m hurdle as recent as July, he won it well and being related to some useful flat and hurdlers/chasers he could make up into a smart prospect.
Soladoun (FR)
* 3-y-o (21Feb07 gr g)
* Madoun (FR) — Solador (FR) (Solicitor (FR ) (7.7f))
* Trainer Alan King
* Owner David Sewill
* Breeder Bert Gouin & G DucaComment: A winner on the flat in France and runner up in June shaping like he would be suited by further, likely to make a start in bumpers this term, representing owner of Oh Crick. Sourced for the yard through the founder of Walkon and Mille Chief.
Raya Star (IRE)
* 4-y-o (02Mar06 b g)
* Milan (16.0f) — Garden City (IRE) (Shernazar (11.4f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner S Munir
* Breeder Patrick FennessyComment: Alan states he is exciting and has a real engine. Won his bumper in good fashion and looks surefire winner over hurdles this term.
High Benefit (IRE)
* 5-y-o (03Apr05 b m)
* Beneficial (15.0f) — Higher Again (IRE) (Strong Gale (12.5f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner J Hales
* Breeder Kenneth ParkhillComment: For Alan King to convince the owners she is worth keeping in racing over being covered by Yeats, says she must have a bit about her and after winning her debut in impressive fashion looks sure to go novice hurdling and one I cant wait to see.
No Substitute (IRE)
* 5-y-o (15Apr05 b g)
* Definite Article (11.1f) — Kindly Light (IRE) (Supreme Leader (12.4f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner J Hales
* Breeder Martin MolonyComment: Founder member of the thread, needed the debut before running a good second next time out, will improve with obstacles and hopefully can bag a couple of wins.
Balerina (FR)
* 3-y-o (26Mar07 b f)
* Della Francesca (USA) (10.0f) — Santa Marina (FR) (Kendor (FR ) (12.0f))
* Trainer Alan King
* Owner Tim & Sarah Ingram-Hill
* Breeder Mathieu LalanneComment: Touch of class according to Alan King, his wise words make her an exciting prospect over hurdles.
Sweet Irony (FR)
* 4-y-o (20Mar06 b g)
* Laveron — Medicis (FR) (Sicyos (USA) (7.3f))
* Trainer A King
* Owner S M Smith
* Breeder Mme Laurence GagneuxComment: Travelled really well on latter two starts in bumpers – looks like a classy sort and will be much improved for the introduction to hurdles.
The Real Article (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Definite Article (11.1f) — Soul Mate (IRE) (Phardante (FR ) (12.7f))
* Trainer E J O’Grady
* Owner Mrs Patricia Wallace
* Breeder E J O’GradyComment: Unbeaten in three bumpers and a gelding of great potential. Likely to have a hurdles campaign with all roads leading to Cheltenham in March. A very nice prospect indeed. (The Executioner)
Tus Nua (IRE)
* 4-y-o (01Jan06 b f)
* Galileo (IRE) (11.1f) — Sierva (GER) (Darshaan (11.7f))
* Trainer Brian Nolan
* Owner Brian Martin O’Connor
* Breeder Noel Finnegan And Noel CoganComment: Daughter of Galileo out of a Darshaan mare. Looks a youngster of some promise after two bumper wins from two runs and may turn out to be a novice hurdler to follow when sent over timber. (The Executioner).
The Merry Giant (IRE)
* 4-y-o (20May06 b g)
* Curtain Time (IRE) — Laughing Lesa (IRE) (Bob Back (USA) (12.3f))
* Trainer Miss Rebecca Curtis
* Owner John P McManus
* Breeder Cathal EnnisComment: There was much to like about this youngster’s only racecourse appearence when winning at Worcester in May. Can only improve and I keenly await his next outing. Has the potential to be fairly useful.
Time For Rupert (IRE)
* 6-y-o (13Apr04 ch g)
* Flemensfirth (USA) — Bell Walks Run (IRE) (Commanche Run (11.6f))
* Trainer P R Webber
* Owner Littlecote Racing Partnership
* Breeder Robert O’CallaghanComment: I’ve had my eye on this horse going chasing for quite a while, a big beast of a horse who will probably be even bigger this season. It’s a fact that a certain Paul Nicholls wanted this horse but Mr Webber managed to buy it at the sales. Having given Big Bucks a race in the World Hurdle the horse is expected to go chasing this season and I feel he could be the real deal with a mix of speed, stamina and guts. Often over-priced, it might not be long before this horse is being talked-up as a future Gold Cup winner
Acey (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Milan (16.0f) — Bonnie And Bright (IRE) (Topanoora (9.5f))
* Trainer N T Davies
* Owner Mr H R Mould
* Breeder T J NagleComment: Very smart form in Irish bumpers last season for T Nagle Jnr, winning two from 5 starts and an excellent 3rd. Now in the leading NTD yard and a bright prospect for hurdling this year.
Minella Class (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 br g)
* Oscar (IRE) (14.3f) — Louisas Dream (IRE) (Supreme Leader (12.4f))
* Trainer Nicky Henderson
* Owner John J Nallen
* Breeder Conna StudComment: Purchased by Nicky Henderson for £95k, runner up in a point to Al Ferof, then under rules won his deubt bumper before a really good second to Acey, very promising
Kilcrea Kim (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 ch g)
* Snurge (14.4f) — Kilcrea Deer (IRE) (Brush Aside (USA) (13.8f))
* Trainer P J Hobbs
* Owner
* BreederComment: Easy PTP winner in ireland, cost £42,000 at the Cheltenham sales in april and related to a host of winners.
Back Bob Back (IRE)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Bob Back (USA) (12.3f) — Joyney (Harlow (USA) (8.0f))
* Trainer Tom George
* Owner Kelly, Larry & Murphy, Denis Paul
* BreederComment: Half sister to Dun Belle, by the smart sire Bob Back. Sales price rose form £30k at 3yo to £60k last term, bought by Tom George from the same person who sold Tricky Trickster, won his 3rd Point in Ireland.
Chablais (FR)
* 5-y-o (01Jan05 b g)
* Saint Des Saints (FR) — Malandra (Mtoto (11.5f))
* Trainer N J Henderson
* Owner Mrs Sharon Slattery
* BreederComment: Sales price rose from £11k to £260k in April, won his sole point in scintillating fashion. Smart prospect indeed.
Invictus (IRE)
* 4-y-o (01Jan06 b g)
* Flemensfirth (USA) — Clashwilliam Girl (IRE) (Seymour Hicks (FR ) (10.1f))
* Trainer Alan King
* Owner Martin Blake
* BreederComment: Made to work to win his point but ran on well, related to bumper and hurdle winners and cost £162k this year.
Ipsos Du Berlais (FR)
* 4-y-o (01Jan06 gr g)
* Poliglote (10.6f) — Isis Du Berlais (FR) (Cadoudal (FR ) (18.0f))
* Trainer Noel Meade?
* Owner M O Cullinane
* BreederComment: Sales price rose markedly from yearling, from a very good French jumping family, half brother to many winners over obstacles.
Carribs Leap (IRE)
* 5-y-o (06Apr05 b g)
* Old Vic (13.0f) — Majister Ludi (IRE) (Be My Native (USA) (11.7f))
* Trainer C R Egerton
* Owner Charles Egerton
* Breeder Pat GroganComment: Won his only point in Ireland before hosing up on rules debut in a bumper at Ludlow back in March, travelled really strongly and looks promising.
Beef To The Heels (IRE)
* 4-y-o (01Jan06 ch g)
* Bob Back (USA) (12.3f) — First Strike (IRE) (Magical Strike (USA) (10.2f))
* Trainer Gordon Elliott
* Owner Gigginstown House Stud
* BreederComment: Won well on his only point start, now with Shrewd trainer Gordon Elliott, by useful jumps sire Bob Back and related to a number of winners.
Great research Walshy, some good prospects there, I’d suggest The Real Article and Tus Nua will turn out to be the best of your list.
Did you consider Fiddlededee, Prospect Wells, Hidden Universe or Colonel Mortimer? They seem to be the only omissions from your list that I can think of, off hand.Good information there.
I personally like Ghizao, i think he will prove to be a decent horse.
Bobby Ewing is interesting, i was speaking to someone at Twisters about the horse, and they told me to mark him down as ‘one to watch in future races’, and if i remember correctly, the first time he raced after that comment, he won.
First Lieutenant entered for Navan on Saturday, hope he runs.
Good prospect, I’d already pencilled him and Askanna in on my provisional betting slip
cheltenham specialist i could of pencilled them in aswell to be honest may of slipped my mind with all the horses there.lol
there are 2 horses for me from that list who i advise everyone to follow as a must:
SANG BLEU: In a recent interview paul nicholls was asked the question who is your next best thing coming through?
his reply was SANG BLEU, i have never had a horse who jumps fences so well as him as a novice he is one to stay on the right side of and my star of the future. that says it all really and all i need to know thank you. lol
The other one is FRANKLINO i no everyone at kings yard is raving bout this one and is going to be a star this year. i really fancy alan king to have a good season with all these smart prospects. got to be better than last year.
First Lieutenant entered for Navan on Saturday, hope he runs.
Might drive on up to it if he’s declared tomorrow. Derek O’Connor was hugely impressed with him when he won at Kilfeacle and Robbie Mac didn’t have to move a muscle in his bumper.
Mouse will give him the softly softly approach as is his wont. Assume Slippers will ride him with Russell on the sidelines.
All of those mentioned in recent posts were on my "watch" list so to speak.
FL is one that everyone seems to have noticed so unlikely to be much of a price when he runs.
Colin Bowe is a top trainer going places particularly with his ex-pointers like Askanna, he was Champion trainer last season and is likely to do the same in the Pointing ranks in Ireland this season, he seems particularly good with mares in Bumpers and Hurdles (all i’ve seen them in in fairness). Hopefully he’ll keep Brian O’Neill on for the first few starts at least.
Sang Bleu is a beauty – can tell that from the way he won his debut despite being knocked halfway to Marseille at the first hurdle (jumped the hurdle in a tie for second and was last by the time he’d recovered) in a v v v hot Maiden Hurdle. If Nicholls thinks he’s that good too then he’ll do for me.
Not sure who trains it but I’ve been told elsewhere that the Guy Cherel trained El Mondo has been sold to race on in the UK, he’ll probably end up over fences given that he was 2/2 in Auteuil hurdles at the back end of 2009. No idea who trains him now but well worth looking for.
Colin Bowe is a name to keep an eye on for sure IS. I was impressed with Barry O’Neill’s ride on his Lets Go Sunshine yesterday at Downpatrick.
It’s a hoor of a track to ride but he rode the perfect race from the front and never panicked when Walsh and Townend looked to be going well in behind him.
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