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Not yet Drone, thank xxx.
As you’ve probably seen, haven’t done very well in 2012 as yet. One or two basic errors and a bit of bad luck. If I do go "pro" this year probably won’t be until May or June.You’re welcome petal xxxx
Eh? seen what?
"basic errors and a bit of bad luck"
Thank God, if he/she exists Drone.
"Seen" my DLAP thread?
Basic errors, not studying thoroughly enough. Occasionally missing things like ground bias and best fresh
. Silly mistakes.Bad luck with so many seconds, some should’ve won (pocket talk
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"Seen" my DLAP thread?Ah right, thanks. I haven’t ventured into that thorny thicket for a long while but have now had a brief gander at your recent bets
Are you perhaps being tempted into betting too much and/or casting your net too widely? i.e not specialising in a subset of races and ignoring the rest.
For my part Novice Hurdles may as well be competed by little green men from Mars riding large green beasties; whereas Handicap Chase is tattooed on the back of my hand
And are you being a good boy by maintaining a log of your bets to level stakes, as advised several years ago?
I genuinely wish you well if going ‘pro’. May and June because that’s when the Flat form ‘settles down’ presumably
walk tall, talk small
Like you Drone, I don’t have many bets in novice hurdles, mainly the better ones. Although I missed the fact Une Artiste was having her third hurdles run (soon after her second) in the run up to a possible tilt at the Fred Winter
. Not such a good each way bet. Like you Drone, I prefur the better handicaps, particularly handicap chases. But tend to specialise in the better classes (including handicaps) rather than a type of race.
However, on the flat I tend to keep more to competitive(ish) non-handicaps, at least on Saturdays and Festivals. Especially now most of the best racing is featured on Saturdays.
No, I haven’t maintained a level stakes log. That’s pretty much impossible with so many saver bets. Don’t really see it as important anyway, with (imo) chance of winning and how much value is thought to be in the bet – so important in stakes.
Rarely have a Flat bet before May anyway Drone, keeping to the jumps until then; apart from one or two bets on the Greenham card. Will soon have to make that decision whether to go for Computer Timeform or Race Passes.
Still wavering. Decisions, decisions. Any more advice on that front gratefully recieved. Had hoped Timeform might give old Perspective clients a voucher to go towards one or tother.Thanks for your good wishes Drone and hope you have a good 2012 too. Should be a good one.
Value Is EverythingGod your an awful whinger stilvi. There are some interesting races on tomorrow. Just because it’s a card with a good few handicaps you go ballistic! If your all about betting than I have no sympathy for you. I love betting in handicaps but I can’t find a bet at Newbury today. Even so, there are some I fancy but I’ll be watching the races without having a bet.
Really looking forward to watching Maurice Linehan try get the hatrick up on Tarvini. Also Always Waining whos in the National goes in this.
The veterans race has 10 yos in it and some pretty good ones. Niche Market, Fair Along, Ouzbeck…Very interesting race if you ask me. (I have a soft spot for Ouzbeck)
Mad Max in the next for the first time has preferable conditions for Neil Mulholland.
Quit your whinging. Cheltenham is 9 days away.
Is this your pathetic equivalent of a warning off?
Before you start slagging people off why not start by getting your facts straight – it isn’t a card with a good few handicaps – if it was I wouldn’t have raised the point – every race is a handicap by the bumper. Can you name another main Saturday card that has had a similar make-up? A card should be about providing balance a point you have completely failed to grasp.
Obviously, racing isn’t all about betting – that is another point you have failed to grasp. It is about being selective. If people are licking their lips at betting opportunities at Newbury then I suspect the majority of them will end up long-term losers.
As regards prices, I find plenty of decent priced winners of condition races and it involves much less effort. The problem is people delude themselves when they find a rare 20/1 handicap winner. In reality most will just hand it back and more.
Rant, rant rant. I hope you feel better now, ya big baby!
God your an awful whinger stilvi. There are some interesting races on tomorrow. Just because it’s a card with a good few handicaps you go ballistic! If your all about betting than I have no sympathy for you. I love betting in handicaps but I can’t find a bet at Newbury today. Even so, there are some I fancy but I’ll be watching the races without having a bet.
Really looking forward to watching Maurice Linehan try get the hatrick up on Tarvini. Also Always Waining whos in the National goes in this.
The veterans race has 10 yos in it and some pretty good ones. Niche Market, Fair Along, Ouzbeck…Very interesting race if you ask me. (I have a soft spot for Ouzbeck)
Mad Max in the next for the first time has preferable conditions for Neil Mulholland.
Quit your whinging. Cheltenham is 9 days away.
Is this your pathetic equivalent of a warning off?
Before you start slagging people off why not start by getting your facts straight – it isn’t a card with a good few handicaps – if it was I wouldn’t have raised the point – every race is a handicap by the bumper. Can you name another main Saturday card that has had a similar make-up? A card should be about providing balance a point you have completely failed to grasp.
Obviously, racing isn’t all about betting – that is another point you have failed to grasp. It is about being selective. If people are licking their lips at betting opportunities at Newbury then I suspect the majority of them will end up long-term losers.
As regards prices, I find plenty of decent priced winners of condition races and it involves much less effort. The problem is people delude themselves when they find a rare 20/1 handicap winner. In reality most will just hand it back and more.
Rant, rant rant. I hope you feel better now, ya big baby!
Series of points which you have no response to other than childlike insult – pathetic like your original post.
"Ohhh your so pathetic! I have some great and intelligent points to make but because you are not me and I am so great, I will call you pathetic! Haha! I am Stilvi, not a pathetic child like you! You fail to grasp POINTS like I do. I am a fantastic grasper of points – me – Stilvi! No point shall go ungrasped while I am in forums on the world wide web."
I love you stilvi, why don’t you love me back?
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And not one flat race out of 35 on the day at a distance of 1 mile 6 furlongs or further.
As they’ve always said, you can’t beat British racing for variety.
Can’t wait for Newcastle’s floodlit all weather track to open.
It has been a good week for high class racing with a handful of listed races and a couple of Group 3s between the UK and Ireland.
Tomorrow looks excellent too, with the Geoffrey Freer (G3), Hungerford (G2), the Great St Wilfrid H’cap (and Silver Trophy), plus a Listed race.
There are also a clutch of fascinating Class 2 and Class 3 handicaps full of horses that have been on my Horse Tracker this season, two fun National Hunt cards including an intriguing little Class 2 Limited Handicap at Perth featuring Imperial Cup runner-up and renowned hound Gassin Golf. The promising Ainsi Fideles also seeks a hat-trick in the novices’ chase at Market Rasen.
If that’s not enough for you, there is the great novelty of the Grey Horses Handicap at Newmarket. Still not satisfied? Then tune in to ATR in the evening to watch FOUR brilliant races with plenty of European interest at Arlington Park (American Leger, Secretariat Stakes, Beverley D Stakes and Arlington Million.
There’s no pleasing some people. It takes a special kind of misery guts not to enjoy that sort of smörgåsbord of action!
8 meetings on Saturday but only 2 on Sunday. Barmy.
Hundreds of non runners every week, just how badly is the sport being run?
It has been a good week for high class racing with a handful of listed races and a couple of Group 3s between the UK and Ireland.
Tomorrow looks excellent too, with the Geoffrey Freer (G3), Hungerford (G2), the Great St Wilfrid H’cap (and Silver Trophy), plus a Listed race.
There are also a clutch of fascinating Class 2 and Class 3 handicaps full of horses that have been on my Horse Tracker this season, two fun National Hunt cards including an intriguing little Class 2 Limited Handicap at Perth featuring Imperial Cup runner-up and renowned hound Gassin Golf. The promising Ainsi Fideles also seeks a hat-trick in the novices’ chase at Market Rasen.
If that’s not enough for you, there is the great novelty of the Grey Horses Handicap at Newmarket. Still not satisfied? Then tune in to ATR in the evening to watch FOUR brilliant races with plenty of European interest at Arlington Park (American Leger, Secretariat Stakes, Beverley D Stakes and Arlington Million.
There’s no pleasing some people. It takes a special kind of misery guts not to enjoy that sort of smörgåsbord of action!
Roll up, roll up. Yes, you really have got to love those ‘fun’ cards. This sounds like the kind of flowery language that racing presenters so often love to use because they basically want a return ticket. I wouldn’t bother with a CV just send this post off to RUK – whatever it means the likes of Willoughby would love that foreign word. I can just see them rolling about.
I think your reply was a bit rude there, Jason. What do you want: wall-to-wall Group 1s every Saturday? It’s not sustainable and not necessary.
I’m genuinely excited about watching the racing right through until the early hours tomorrow.
I don’t understand why you’re so dejected about it when there is plenty of variety for the punters, a little novelty for the public, plus a good standard of animal in the handicaps and pattern races. Have you been to a Summer Jumps meeting this year? It’s hard
not
to have fun at the races in good weather, especially with some recognisable winter horses in action.
Forgive me for finding joy in something that isn’t Royal Ascot. It must be a miserable life for a racing fan or punter who can’t get stuck into a day of racing like this.
Think of a handicap as a Group 1 just with inferior horses carrying different weights and it is not so bad.
I personally prefer shorter races – they are over quicker
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"8 meetings on Saturday but only 2 on Sunday. Barmy.
Hundreds of non runners every week, just how badly is the sport being run?
I’m frankly astonished how many non runners there are now every day yet no-one in the industry seems to care. As for 6 afternoon race meetings crazy. I’ve been told my argument is flawed but say Doncaster & Chester didn’t race today, they could save on prize money, add it to subsequent fixtures and have more valuable races
7 out of 8 of the C4 televised races being over 6 or 7 furlongs didn`t whet the appetite much for me
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