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  • #1654239
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    CAS has got me keeping an eye on it and watching the short clips on BBC Sport.

    Gripping stuff today and two-nil down in the Series does not tell the whole story.

    I hope the remaining Tests aren’t weather affected or “pearler” batting wickets as I could see England staging a fight back.

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    #1654245
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    At the risk of sounding like Mike, I managed the cash out my bet for a very modest profit just after Stokes was out.

    A lot is being made of the Bairstow stumping and all that “spirit of the game” rubbish. But England lost through poor bowling on the opening day and poor batting on the second day.

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    Lack of attention by Bairstow. Golden rule in that circumstance is to check that keeper considers the ball dead before leaving your crease, and it seems he’s in the habit of wandering out of the crease without looking. Maybe he should have called “In!”?

    Reminds me of an incident when I was playing for Bradfield in an evening league game. I took a heave at the ball, missed and, hearing the stumps being broken, assumed I was bowled and walked. Turned out the wicketkeeper and broken the wicket with his pads, and I while I was mistakenly making my way to the pavilion he remade the wicket and stumped me. Umpire wasn’t interested in giving me a reprieve.

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    Are you not entertained?

    What can you say about this series so far? 2-0 to either side or 1-1 would not be unfair. England were odds on for about half an hour this afternoon (after Australia were 1/25 at one point yesterday) and that’s down to one man. He really is a phenomenal sportsman.

    ‘But England lost through poor bowling on the opening day and poor batting on the second day.’

    Exactly this. Anyone trying to point to one moment being decisive in either match so far is very far wide of the mark. It’s five days of sport that, like any other, is a game of fine margins. It’s a shame that we find ourselves two down with three to play because this series deserves to go to the wire and who knows, maybe it will, but it is not an unfair score. It’s been ten days of the finest sporting theatre and we go again Thursday, bring it on.

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    You’re sick if you are enjoying England having their test match pants pulled down.. sick
    😂😂😂

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    #1654630
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    Maybe it’s because I was watching a five-minute highlights show, but I felt like I was watching a one-day match, not a Test, a lot of the time.

    The number of agricultural hoiks/slogs seemed more reminiscent of a run-chase than a Test match.

    Do we now live in an era where the average batsman is so strong a top-edge can go for six, and so technique matters less, because boundary ropes haven’t kept pace with human physical development and pitches are just too small nowadays?

    For all that, I found it enthralling good watch – but six minutes, not six hours, is the limit of my attention span nowadays.

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    There does appear to be more sixes hit nowadays. A combination of batsmen being stronger and bats being better designed.

    Lovers of cricket trivia will tell you that only one man has ever hit the ball over the pavilion at Lord’s: Albert Trott in 1899. The bat he used is in the museum at Lord’s. It is literally just a piece of wood with a handle.

    I don’t know if the wicket was closer to the pavilion that day, or if the wind was behind. In any event, Trott must have been formidably strong to have hit a ball over the pavilion with that bat. No modern batsmen with their better designed bats has got anywhere near matching his feat.

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    batsmen

    Get with it Corker, batters :yes:

    Don’t know if it’s unique but I recall seeing sometime in the mid ’70s the great West Indian Clive Lloyd hook the ball out of Old Trafford courtesy of a slow long-hop from the Pakistani leg spinner Intikhab Alam

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    More balls go out of the ground at Taunton than stay in
    The river tone must be full of them

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    You know it was a thriller when even I got interested.

    To Old Trafford!

    Let’s hope the infamous west of Pennines weather doesn’t intervene.

    Is five days sunshine in Manchester and a bowlers’ wicket for once at The Oval too much to ask for?

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    Trott is the only man to hit a ball over the Lord’s pavilion. But Mike Llewellyn of Glamorgan hit one on to the roof during the 1977 Gillette Cup Final.

    I was watching from the Nursery End and the ball just kept climbing and climbing – it was an amazing shot.

    We were surrounded by Glamorgan fans and, amid the hubbub as the Middlesex captain sent fielders to all parts before the next ball, a wonderful Welsh voice behind us intoned: “You’d better put one in Slough, Brearley!”

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    “batsmen

    Get with it Corker, batters”

    Maybe Duke Drone is being ironic, but I’d have said batsmen, too, actually.

    “Batters” sounds like regional slang – or something they do in fish and chip shops – a bit like those who call it a “throw on” in football instead of a “throw in.”

    So long as we all understand each other, though, surely none of it matters – the English language is our servant, we are not its servants.

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    Drone is correct because “Batter” is now the official, gender neutral term as specified by the ECB.

    I still say “batsman” because I am a fully paid up member of The Awkward Squad – and I suspect Drone is too!

    At least I did not go to Blackpool today. Stanley Park’s return as a County Championship venue lasted for all of 4.1 overs today, with rain forecast for the rest of the week.

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    I caught a bit of the story behind women’s cricket whilst the weather interrupted play
    Someone was caught in the slips and the commentator shouted “SHEs got HIM” .. “um, I mean her”
    I tend to avoid all news on womens cricket/football, I’m pleased for them but I’ve enough going on with the mens game. It catches me out everything when the radio is on and they say something like “Manchester United are playing Chelsea tonight” I’m thinking are they.?? my brain starts spinning and I realise they are talking about the women’s game.

    Batsman
    Batsmen
    Batsperson
    Batswoman
    Batswomen
    Batter
    Batman and Robin

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    #1654954
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    They’ve long been bowlers and fielders, although you do sometimes hear ‘fieldsman’ but it’s not that commonly used. I have TMS on whilst working and they mostly say ‘batter’ now but most of them do still slip a ‘batsman’ in there on occasion. Wicket keeper has also always been gender neutral.

    Pedants would surely approve of the change as it now brings the terms into line.

    #1654955
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    ECB slow with the fielding position of third man being renamed

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    #1654969
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    “Drone is correct because “Batter” is now the official, gender neutral term as specified by the ECB.”

    Oh, I see!

    Apologies to the King Of The Knavesmire!

    “At least I did not go to Blackpool today. Stanley Park’s return as a County Championship venue lasted for all of 4.1 overs today, with rain forecast for the rest of the week.”

    Would you believe I briefly considered driving all the way up for it to evoke childhood outground memories?

    And in a sense I would have done because my only previous visit to a Lancashire cricket ground (though not an outground) was in 1975 when rain washed out the Lancashire v Australia Tour game so, while I got to see the inside of Old Trafford as me and my Dad ate our silverside sandwiches packed lunches, I never did get to see Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson in action.

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