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The situation with non runners is getting seriously out of hand there now appears to be more and more each day far worse than prior to 48 hour decsb resulting tiny field sizes.. Urgent action is needed investigate causes and arrest the trend
Nobody’s bothered Kent, it’s disgusting. How much money must racing be losing from punters backing all the non runners?
The BHA actively encourage non runners by allowing them to run in the next few days after being withdrawn.
Eddie,
If a horse is declared on good-firm (or good-firm is expected) and rain comes to make it soft – why shouldn’t connections pull it out and run a few days later on a firm surface?May be it is time to look at bringing decs back to overnight, otherwise there is nothing to stop this trend continuing.
However frustrating though, presumably the money from overseas (or wherever) more than makes up for people backing non-runners.
Would’ve thought most punters don’t back that many non-runners anyway, because those coming out are usually not expected to act on the ground. Therefore a lot of non-runners can be predicted by punters.
Value Is EverythingEddie,
Therefore a lot of non-runners can be predicted by punters.That’s one of the daftest things I’ve ever read on here
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Can you give me a list of all tomorrows non runners before they’re withdrawn please?GT
There are 10 non runners at Carlisle and 13 at Nottingham (so far)I don’t see any great going changes at either track so that can’t be the reasonGT
There are 10 non runners at Carlisle and 13 at Nottingham (so far)I don’t see any great going changes at either track so that can’t be the reasonKentdougal,
There does not need to be any change in the going for horses to come out because of ground issues. That’ll also sound "daft" to Eddie.I don’t know if this particular scenario happened, but you can get the gist.
Sometimes if the ground is say good-firm and heavy showers are expected somewhere in the vacinity of the racecourse (not neccessarily "forecast") – it won’t be known2 days
before the race whether those showers will hit the racecourse or not. If the racecourse gets the heavy showers it may ride soft, so despite the "good-firm" ground never/hardly changing – quite a lot of soft ground horses may be entered… and pulled out. Also, if the rain does come it would put the trainers off running their firm ground horses.
When the weather (precipitation) is uncertain you will always get more non-runners. In the majority of cases I don’t think we can blame connections and/or (as Eddie would like) penalise them by banning non-runners in near-to hand events. Otherwise trainers would just wait for a day with a more certain state of going, probably leaving even fewer runners for the "uncertain" days.
I’d like it to go back to 11am ONE day before for final decs.
Value Is EverythingEddie,
Therefore a lot of non-runners can be predicted by punters.That’s one of the daftest things I’ve ever read on here
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Can you give me a list of all tomorrows non runners before they’re withdrawn please?Ha Ha, very good.
Eddie,
Therefore a lot of non-runners can be predicted by punters.That’s one of the daftest things I’ve ever read on here
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Can you give me a list of all tomorrows non runners before they’re withdrawn please?"A lot" does not mean "all" Eddie.
What I mean is horses like SIR BEDIVERE and/or URIAH HEEP in the 3:20 Newbury tomorrow.
Going is AT THE MOMENT according to Racing Post officially
Good-firm, good in places
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Their form suggests they may be best with some give in the ground. So
IF
Newbury happens to
MISS
the rain forecast then it may well turn to
GOOD-FIRM
. In that case one or both may be non-runners. IF it rains and it goes on the soft side of good… then they will no doubt run and possibly one or two of the horses with firm ground form could come out.
A look at the form book can help predict horses that may be non-runners. Therefore it is not a surprise when they do. I’d say
IF
there is
NO
rain at Newbury and it turns Good-firm… then both Sir Bedivere and Uriah Heep have around a 70% chance of not turning up.
Value Is Everything"A lot" does not mean "all" Eddie.
What I mean is horses like SIR BEDIVERE and/or URIAH HEEP in the 3:20 Newbury tomorrow.
Well done Gingertipster for putting up a couple of horses that did run although there was little likelihood of either not running but I don’t see any of the non runners today put up by you. I thought you said they weren’t too difficult to predict?
You’re perfectly right "all" is too many for any man, even Gingertipster but so far you haven’t put any at all up have you?
You said "Therefore a lot of non runners can be predicted by punters"
Where are they then?
Lets have 70% of tomorrows non runners before they are withdrawn.
There won’t be many non-runners to predict for a meeting held on "good" ground Eddie. Most horses go on good ground. The rain Newbury got meant both Sir Bedivere and Uriah Heep were fine at Newbury today.
Tomorrow will be my fourth day going racing on the trot Eddie; with four days of studying. I haven’t got the time or inclination to "predict non-runners" for you.
Are you really saying you have not got a clue which horses like a firm surface and which horses like soft? If you don’t know something as basic as that – you’d better give up betting entirely Eddie.
Why not do it yourself?
Get a good form book, go through it searching for firm and soft ground horses. Then take note of which horses are non-runners. Of course there will be some with other reasons; but you’ll soon see a lot of absentees would not have liked the ground.Value Is Everything
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